Trump is found liable for fraud in New York civil case

They already looked at pursuing criminal charges and decided against it. It’s why it’s a civil trial.

 

'NY probe found potential crimes. Why isn’t Trump in cuffs?'

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'James said at a news conference Wednesday that her office was referring its findings to the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan and the Internal Revenue Service, and would share evidence of possible state law violations with the Manhattan district attorney’s office, if requested.

The U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan said it was aware of James’ referral of potential criminal violations, but otherwise declined comment. The Internal Revenue Service’s criminal investigation division said it “doesn’t confirm the existence of investigations until court documents are publicly available.”

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg said his probe of Trump was “active and ongoing.”

https://apnews.com/article/crime-new-york-lawsuits-manhattan-bb0b240218679e38f59b6fe28566272c

 

Talk about putting people's lives in danger.
Trump is one dangerous mentally deranged coward.


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Trump allies in the House call for criminal probe of Michael Cohen after his testimony in fraud trial

Cohen has appeared as a key witness in the New York case that could jeopardize control of his real estate business.

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House intel panel chief asks DOJ to nail Michael Cohen for lie to Congress

Donald Trump’s former “fixer” previously served prison time for prior lies to Congress.

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This was a super strange day. First, he claimed he lied under oath when he gave testimony to Congress. Then after a break he came back and they were pressuring him on this point and he realized he could be open to legal trouble. So he changed his mind and said he lied during his current trial and told the truth to Congress. Then he changed his mind again. The prosecution was visibly distressed, according to those in the room. Tish said the team of her and Cohen was going to nail Trump, and all they did was discredit their case when their star witness decided his final answer was that nobody from the Trump Org asked him to inflate the value of properties.

One thing is certain, he either again committed perjury in NY or he perjured himself in DC previously. I think Cohen got carried away at the thought of helping prosecute Trump since he clearly has an axe to grind and he was likely telling Tish whatever she wanted to hear during the investigation phase and led her to believe they could get Trump. Tish's case fell apart that day. That was the only person who was willing to testify against Trump who claimed to have any knowledge of the so-called crimes. Without his testimony, the only they have is their opinions versus Trump Org's opinions about the values of properties.

 

Because this is a lower burden of proof. Depending what comes out, more charges could still come.

 

It’s not a matter of opinion that he lied about square footage lol

 

Q: If they find Trump guilty of fraud and that his property is worth way less than he said, then would he be owed a tax refund on the over-valuation?

 

@5:40 Cohen responds.

 

Only if he overpaid the real estate tax bill.

How likely do you think that is ?

 

They haven't "decided against it." It's still ongoing.

 

Well, he was telling the tax authorities that the properties were worth less than tax assessor valuations. He only gave the inflated values to insurers and banks when it would benefit him. And I doubt if he's paid much, if anything, in taxes during this time period anyway.

 

You are most likely correct but I would laugh if NY found themselves having to pay him a refund as a result of their lawsuit.

 

Trump had tried to settle before the trail began with no success.
How do you settle something you're not guilty of? lol
If settlement negotiations are taking place Habbahabba would be the last attorney of Trumps I would have in the room.
Maybe Habba's daily habit of spewing lies, insults and delusions to the media came back to bite her in the ass.

'Alina Habba's Sudden Disappearance From Trump Trial Sparks New Theory'

Nov 14, 2023 at 6:06 PM EST

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'Attorney Alina Habba's prolonged disappearance during former President Donald Trump's New York civil fraud trial has sparked rumors that a settlement is being devised in the case.'

"On Tuesday, various reporters on the scene in the New York courthouse where the fraud trial was set to continue noted that the day's session had been delayed while Habba, one of Trump's key attorneys in the case, conferred privately with Judge Engoron. Later, she emerged from the meeting and left the courtroom.'

"We have been waiting to start this afternoon's session for nearly 20 minutes as Jason Flemmons, the current witness, sits and waits with us," MSNBC legal analyst Lisa Rubin wrote in a thread on X, the platform previously known as Twitter. "Judge Engoron first conferenced privately with Trump lawyer Alina Habba, who then left the courtroom and has not returned; he is now conferring with 4 lawyers for the AG: Kevin Wallace, Lou Solomon, Colleen Faherty, and Andy Amer. Why? No one knows."

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https://www.newsweek.com/alina-habba-sudden-disappearance-trump-trial-new-theory-1843793

 

Settlement, is not in itself an admission of guilt. But rather an attempt to civilly resolve the dispute. In this case, without Cohen the State does not have a guarantee of a verdict in its favor. And for Trump with his varied legal troubles, if he can negotiate an 'out', that would be a win for him.

Both sides claim victory, both get what they want, and part one of this farce will be drawn to a close.

 

Trump & Co were already found guilty.

 

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5 hours ago — Attorney Alina Habba privately met with judge Tuesday after Trump complained about “low-ball settlement offer.

 

Then Fani should prosecute Cohen if he did it without anyone asking him to as he swore under oath. Problem solved; she has her culprit.

 

Trump devotees would be paying for his fraud?

'Rubin noted that Habba would make sense as Trump’s proxy in potential settlement talks because aside from being his outside counsel she is also listed as the legal spokesperson and general counsel for his Save America PAC. “She just might be the best positioned to negotiate on behalf of Team Trump,” Rubin wrote.'

 

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'Trump on Monday claimed that Judge Arthur Engoron “asked me to settle for a MUCH LOWER AMOUNT, at a settlement conference, but I said NO, I DID NOTHING WRONG!”

Trump two weeks earlier also claimed that the attorney general’s lawyers “want to settle.”

“Why should I be forced to settle when I did nothing wrong?” he wrote.

Rubin noted that the only publicly reported settlement conversations date back to September 2022, before the lawsuit was actually filed.

“Moreover, that reporting discusses many settlement overtures from the Trump Organization to the attorney general, but does not reference any settlement conferences before Judge Engoron. So what is Trump talking about and when did it happen? Stay tuned,” Rubin wrote.'

 

If Fani prosecuted Cohen for anything that happened in NY, then we would have a problem in our justice system..

 

Then whats keeping his good Honor from handing down the verdict. Given the sensitivities of the deliberations to date, and the confrontations you'd think he'd hand out swift, deliberate and powerful punishments.

 

Indeed, Fani is the AG of Georgia. It's ms. James who will have to decide Cohen's fate in NY, by lying he clearly broke his plea agreement with prosecutors.

BTW, I do have to ask how does it feel that Cohen lied and was an unreliable witness for the State of NY?

 

And why would they be without Cohen? Frankly, he's not in the top 5 most important witnesses here, just the most famous..

 

You just said Cohen committed fraud in NY. So why isn't she prosecuting him for it?