Trump just boxed himself in with the Stormy Daniels case

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  1. MissingMayor

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    I have to admit, I am surprised at how damaging that statement turned out to be. You sure called it.
     
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    Absolutely. And, agreed.

    By the way, where has Melania been lately?

    Hopefully, she has been binge watching La Femme Nikita for "creative ideas".

    When is that Brainless Slovenian Hooker going to make herself useful?

    Yup. Trump really boxed himself in.:smfh: :salute:
     
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    1) sure it is fine for Obama to say nice things about Muslims but all he ever did was lay blame and put down Christians.
    2) Read my post. I explained why I joined Elks. It gets 115 degrees in Phx and the kids like to swim...... Duh!
    3) Christians are those that believe in Christ and who he said He is. They desire to follow Him not just the traditions of men. Why don't you ask your Christian friends why they love Jesus?
    4) I never said atheists are all Marxists, but all Marxists are atheist. What? You got corncobs between your ears? There is no way to explain your brand of atheism I suppose. Just molecules to humanoids I guess. If Nazis defy openly what Jesus said, how can you call them Christian?
    5) Because by loving God, you will automatically love others as yourself. The two commandments Jesus gave are self fulfilling.....ask your Christian friends that don't go to Church. I don't care if it's "church" but Christians just naturally like to worship along with other Christians.
     
  4. Renee

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    1-When did obama ever blame and out down Christians? I want specifics, not some imagined slurs that justify your prejudice
    2- You may think I am not smart but only a fool would believe that you had to join the Elks so the kids could swim. Last I heard they were a few swimming pools in Phoenix without the dues and the rituals. Please don’t insult my intelligence...duh!
    3-My Christian friends may believe in Jesus and God but they certainly have different values than you do. My friends have evolved. They don’t believe that a book written thousands of years ago is relevant today. My friends would never be as judgmental as you. My friends would never put down people of different faiths or no religious faith.
    4- Who are these Marxists that you speak of? Is that kind of like the Joe McCarthy that everyone is a commie? I will use your speech mechanism . All Christians are not KKK but all KKK are Christians.
    5- Those Germans that took part and will complicit in the holocaust believed they were Christians. Hey they can use what you talk about just ask for forgiveness and then they could get back in the Christian club
    I would also appreciate you stopping those childish insults ...like do I have corn cob between my ears? Well with these kind of retorts I know you are certainly not an intellect.
    6 You may like to worship along with other Christians and that’s fine I love to go to women’s political meetings with other feminists. I love to go to charity meetings with other donors.....I don’t need god.you do and that’s fine. But it hardly makes you a better person
     
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  5. Renee

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    I do not think she is brainless nor is she a hooker....I don’t think she ever expected the role of first lady.
     
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    "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations"
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html
     
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  7. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am only going to address #2. The rest I'll just leave to you and your imagination Renee.
    #2 I built a home for my faimily in Phoenix with every intent of building a swimming pool. Within a year I discovered the City had a design for recquisitioning my home and several in the neighborhood to build the Squaw Peak freeway. (They did in three years). It just so happened I lived 3 blocks away from the rather new Elks facility. It was a rather old membership and they were trying to recruit young members to join. They built a large swimming pool, two indoor racquetball courts and a weight room. They also had a very nice restaurant on site and I could join for $65 per year, which I did. You can't clean a swimming pool for a month for that price. So Renee, see, your inner voice doesn't tell you everything. I went to one meeting with a friend, Richard Licudine, and watched the members recite their lengthy rituals. We were initiated and became members. I never recited one ritual or went to another meeting thereafter but Rich and I had several enjoyable afternoons and evenings with our families at the Elks. I say all this to say.....you may say I was an Elk in name only, but I was a pretty poor excuse for an Elk. It is the same with a lot os so-called Christians. Anyone can wear a cross, even Madonna. .....oh wait....#3

    #3 Your friends can call themselves Christians if it makes them feel good, but Christians don't "evolve", just like atheists never witness miracles. Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end of everything. Perhaps they are the type that might "evolve" into Naziis, Atheists, or Scientologists but they never truly believed. Here is a good mystery for you. My Bible says, "He who began a good work in you will be faithful to complete it." Sounds like with your friends.....it never began.

    Your friends are different than you in that they don't put down others. Have you told them they believe in an imaginary "sky fairy"? You told that to me.
    ww.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/obama/obama-ashamed-of-jesus.htm
     
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  8. yabberefugee

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    Here's more ww.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/obama/obama-ashamed-of-jesus.htm
     
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    The word "Christian" was given as a name to describe the followers of Jesus. So show us examples of where Jesus persecuted his fellow Jews in the manner you describe Nazis as doing. Renee...you're an alright girl, just confused.( Now I guess you can claim mysogyny because I called you a girl,)
     
  10. Renee

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    You are correct , I am not a girl But I guess because Jesus says we should be subservient you think of my role that way. Boys like you need that.The only good thing in your silly “is that you knew it was sexist. So it speaks volumes about your character and you need to insult
    No , Jesus did not kill 6 million Jews. He was already in the sky. His followers did, ya know the ones who say they are Christians. You kind of make me laugh. When people do good things they are Christians but when they do bad things they get kicked out of the Christian club. They killed Jews because they weren’t Christians, Had those Jews been Christians they would not have been slaughtered. You can spin it anyway you want. My great grandparents aren’t here to explain but thank goodness for the HolocaustMuseum
     
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  11. Renee

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    Oh no Obama is being kicked out of the Christian club because he wants to be inclusive. What the heck is wrong with him? What could be worse making Christmas season inclusive. The nerve of him wanting it to be a winter celebration. It does not mean that he doesn’t want Christmas. No one could be this ridiculous. He embraces people of all faiths Shame on him...jews and Muslims shouldn’t be equal. What’s wrong with obama. He should be able to see the white supremist as “good people “ after all, they’re Christians. You know, you should be ashamed of yourself for this kind of propaganda and hate
    Obama is a far better Christian than the man you forgive,,,and forgive...and forgive[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
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    Andrew McCarthy thinks this Porn Star/Cohen thing is a could be a real legal threat to Trump:

    ...the only thing protected in a lawyer’s office are attorney–client communications and work product. If Cohen had incriminating items unrelated to attorney work in his office, being a lawyer does not shield him from liability. Furthermore, if there is no attorney–client relationship on a particular matter, there is no privilege. Trump and Cohen both say that Cohen did not tell Trump about the Clifford arrangement. Sounds implausible, but on its face it means there was no attorney–client relationship regarding that transaction.

    More important, if a lawyer is involved with a client in a criminal conspiracy, the crime-fraud exception to the attorney–client privilege strips their communications of privileged status. It seems evident that prosecutors are investigating on the theory that Clifford, McDougal, and perhaps others were defrauded or extorted into silence. The fact that they accepted money does not foreclose the possibility that their agreement to remain silent was procured, in part, by trickery or threats.

    When Hillary Clinton inserted lawyers at various stages of her email scandal, in order to conceal the mishandling of classified information, the destruction of government records, and the obstruction of investigations, some of us pointed out that when lawyers become actors in criminal schemes, there is no privilege. That’s still true.

    No wrongdoing has been established at this point. But the SDNY investigation is a serious matter.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/michael-cohen-investigation-serious-peril-for-trump/
     
  13. Renee

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    Gee, I’m shocked to learn that Phoenix has no public pools....my friends who live there used to go to them. They were probably really elks.
    You say you were an elk in name only, I am sure many of them said . that you were a Christian in name only..you’re not the on,y one who has the right to judge. You do not meet the description my Christian friends believe. They don’t judge so harshly and so hatefully ...By your definition I would be a better Christian than you
    You may think Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, I keep telling my students that I am the Alpha and the Omega also LOL I was a believer for many many years and yes I evolved . I bet you believed in Santa Claus when you were a little boy but you were involved into an adult and realized that so much of that was impossible and just a need. There are things in the Bible that I find repugnant and there are things in the Bible that’s really so ill logical but I just cannot suspend all logic. And there are beautiful things in the Bible as well. I also believe in science. Stop judging other people. Just because you believe so strongly in the supernatural person does not mean that other people who believe In him, but not as fanatically, are somehow less than you. For someone who quotes the Bible, you sure pick and choose what suits you. Tell me what makes you a better person than me?
    I never said Jesus was a sky fairy.....but he is an invisible man in the sky. Do you see him? Why do people point to the sky? Yes I have had many discussions with my Christian friends and my Jewish friends. But they are not as extremist is you and they have evolved and they don’t pick and choose and forgive only the ones they want to forgive
    I also have to laugh as you said you would only discuss number two and then you went right to number three
     
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    Sorry Renee, Truth is not inclusive.
     
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    You are so reactionary to my faith. Here is something for you to read and calm down. Here is a little research as to what real followers of Jesus was doing during the Holocaust:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrie_ten_Boom
    I am not a better person than you Renee. I do not look to the sky to see Jesus. He lives in people like Corrie ten Boom. The sky was "created" by God. He has another place for us. A far better place. I won't be playing a harp either. It will be far better than anything I've enjoyed on earth. I can only imagine.
    It makes me happy to think I made you laugh.....or even smile a little?
     
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  16. Renee

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    Don’t patronize me and tell me to calm down. You are the one who seems to be hysterical. You want to believe that the sky was created by God. Fine ..my granddaughter likes to believe that she gets toys from Santa. Fine. The ancient Greeks believed that Persephone created harvests etc, fine
    How do you know you won’t be playing a harp? How do you know you won’t be 6 feet under?You have a need to believe in the afterlife because you cannot accept that we go through once....
     
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    I[/QUOTE]
    Sorry Renee, Truth is not inclusive.[/QUOTE]

    Your truth definitely isn’t inclusive....That’s why we have such different values
     
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    Sorry Renee, Truth is not inclusive.[/QUOTE]

    Your truth definitely isn’t inclusive....That’s why we have such different values[/QUOTE]
    Either Jesus rose from the dead or he didn't. That is a question to ask your friends that say they are Christian. If Jesus rose from the dead, then everything the Bible says is true. I believe Washington D.C. is the capitol of the United States. Just because some person in California believes Fresno is the Capitol of the United States.....well I don't have to believe his "truth" to be true in order to be "inclusive". If I had doubts as to what I believe then I could compromise....kumbaya. So you have no doubts about human beings evolving from a molecule to human beings?
     
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    1st I do not accept it because I have an inborn sense that my soul will overcome death. 2nd, I studied the Bible and determined that my inborn sense is true. My daughter works at hospice. She has seen countless people go to the world beyond. Those that know where they are going go in peace. Those that feel they are consigned to a dirtnap struggle because they can't let go of this world. Your comparison of me and your "Christian friends" to your grandaughters belief in Santa can be contrued as insulting whether you see it or not. Perhaps you don't know that St. Nicholas was a Christian and a generous one. The tradition arose from the example God gave of giving gifts. So it is with Thanksgiving. For whom do you give thanks?? Chance????
     
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    NO, you’re daughter saw people die.. nothing more! My parents went in peace also....without believing in an imaginary paradise. Those who are “consigned to a dirt nap” are the ones who let go! It’s those who need to believe they’ll be up in the sky who can’t.
    You may not like the analogy to Santa, but the parallels are undeniable. Why are they different? Why is the belief in Zeus different? It shows that people cannot accept death so they create a hereafter where everything is just perfect. They also don’t believe in science .
    Thanksgiving I eat turkey and thank the cook! Who do the children who die of starvation thank because god won’t make rain? Who do the people in earthquakes thank?
     
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    Your truth definitely isn’t inclusive....That’s why we have such different values[/QUOTE]
    Either Jesus rose from the dead or he didn't. That is a question to ask your friends that say they are Christian. If Jesus rose from the dead, then everything the Bible says is true. I believe Washington D.C. is the capitol of the United States. Just because some person in California believes Fresno is the Capitol of the United States.....well I don't have to believe his "truth" to be true in order to be "inclusive". If I had doubts as to what I believe then I could compromise....kumbaya. So you have no doubts about human beings evolving from a molecule to human beings?[/QUOTE]

    So you believe everything in the Bible? My friends who seem to be a lot less judgmental than you question a lot. That’s what intelligent people do..they don’t just accept blind faith. Good analogy...you’re the person who believes Fresno is the capital of the country, I believe it’s dc .
    I don’t know how humans evolved....but I don’t make up stories because I don’t have the answers yet. People believed Zeus was king of the gods..they believed Persephone gave us harvests they believed Eros was a god who had controlled Romance and yes, Santa brought us toys....you may consider that an insult, but thinking that people who don’t believe in The supernatural lack a moral compass is the epitome of an insult. Isn’t there something in your bible about judging??
     
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    Silly fool logic to think that your moral outrage over Stormy Daniels has any effect upon the seriousness of the violation of law. If found guilty, he would be prosecuted for the same thing the Obama campaign was prosecuted for. Failing to report funds as a campaign contribution.
     
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    Either Jesus rose from the dead or he didn't. That is a question to ask your friends that say they are Christian. If Jesus rose from the dead, then everything the Bible says is true. I believe Washington D.C. is the capitol of the United States. Just because some person in California believes Fresno is the Capitol of the United States.....well I don't have to believe his "truth" to be true in order to be "inclusive". If I had doubts as to what I believe then I could compromise....kumbaya. So you have no doubts about human beings evolving from a molecule to human beings?[/QUOTE]

    So you believe everything in the Bible? My friends who seem to be a lot less judgmental than you question a lot. That’s what intelligent people do..they don’t just accept blind faith. Good analogy...you’re the person who believes Fresno is the capital of the country, I believe it’s dc .
    I don’t know how humans evolved....but I don’t make up stories because I don’t have the answers yet. People believed Zeus was king of the gods..they believed Persephone gave us harvests they believed Eros was a god who had controlled Romance and yes, Santa brought us toys....you may consider that an insult, but thinking that people who don’t believe in The supernatural lack a moral compass is the epitome of an insult. Isn’t there something in your bible about judging??[/QUOTE]
     
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    You mean there is someone who still watches CNN?
     
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    only the “elite”...ya know the educated
     

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