Trump leans into voter fraud playbook, preparing to cry foul if he loses expected Biden rematch

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  1. hawgsalot

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    LOL a few facebook ads that had no bearing on the election, just like there was definitely some ballot box stuffing but not enough to change the outcome of the election. That's exactly the point though. You are pointing it out is no damn different than anyone on the right doing the same thing.
     
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    And it's a safe bet that the Left will cry foul and lean into its Russia Collooooooozhin Conspiracy Theory/Hoax playbook AGAIN if Biden loses his rematch.

    Themselves and their lousy ideas, policies and candidates are never to blame for their electoral faceplants. Someone or something else is always responsible.

    To quote the OP:

    THIS. IS. CHILDISH. BEHAVIOR.
     
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  3. Hey Now

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    So, you should know the answer. Why does trump only whine voter fraud when he loses, which is a lot, and his core support fall in line parroting the nonsense he spews?
     
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    Only in your mind, only in your mind.
    You see, I gave you the reasons why you are wrong. Your defense is the "I know you are but what am I". Very sad. Zero examples to make your point.
     
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    That is correct.
    And some he did not. That's in the article I linked. Like the OP says, it's his "playbook".
     
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    Courts haven't looked at it because there hasn't been evidence produced to look at.
    Trump has shown EVERYONE his idea of fraud but only the gullible are buying it......like his trading cards. You've done your own "research"? Great. Look how well that worked out for people with the vaccines.
     
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    First, it wasn't just "a few facebook ads". It was much more and very targeted. It is impossible to tell what the effect was on voters BUT, how many people actually believed "pizzagate" and all the other Hillary nonsense. To dismiss it is foolish.
     
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    Dictator .. God rested on the 7th day ?? the Execution begins ?? That some paranoid thinking you got going on there .. only thing missing is the Russia Russia propaganda .. Trump gonna turn USA over to Putin.
     
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    Because it would make no sense to whine about voter fraud if he won, would it? Now... a man of integrity would hear the cries of "voter fraud" by his opponent when he won, and rather than ridicule and belittle them, immediately call for a non-partisan investigation to prove they had no merit, but vowing to step down if the investigation uncovered election-changing fraud.
     
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    No, he's too power hungry to do that. But he wold let Putin have his way in Europe, no doubt about that.
     
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    Are you claiming Trump has credibility given his "loosa" track record? Or, can you explain why his followers emulate every whine he makes as "the biggest loosa"?

    Every court case he brought re election fraud he lost or they could not warrant court evidence standard threshold, IOWs, his cases were total b/s, meritless.
     
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    Sure, because that's what 'followers' do; they follow.
     
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    So you agree Trump and the most devout are loosas and loonies?! Excellent, that personifies the OP.
     
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    Trump is why children learning to be good sports when losing is so important
     
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    Well, no. As a rule, I generally don't call people childish names. Please don't attribute things to me that I haven't said.

    But to recap what I did say: You asked why Trump only whines about voter fraud when he loses. Because it would be silly for him to whine about it when he wins.

    Then you asked why his followers agree with him. Because that's what followers do; they follow.
     
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    Sure, but this incumbent POTUS claimed fraud about the mid-terms: 1 1/2 YEARS before there was even a mid-term vote. Not even Trump stooped that low. The fact is, both sides are attacking American democracy, some more and some less, but both of them are infringing on people's confidence in the system.
     
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    You are confusing Trump with Biden .. Biden is the President letting Putin have his way with Europe. Where are those F-16s ?
     
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    As a rule, Agent Orange does and he also spreads lies and disinformation. If you parrot that information, that high horse claim is simple chafe to be ignored since it's clear to anyone with the best interests of a nation that is representative that that's not going to back the moral compass cloak. So, you have already agreed that trump only whines voter fraud when he loses and that his core support seem to think they need to disingenuously act in the same manner. No backflipping can distance anyone with a clear thinking ability from. That's the "winning" not "whining" position...
     
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    Russian 2016 election interference is far from fact, at least on the level of the Chicken Little Blue Cancel Crew but, let us assume Russia was behind the DNC Hack - then gave some information to wiki-leaks with Trumps permission -- explicit or implicit.

    First let us state that hundreds of nations are interfering with our electoral process in one way or another so interference itself is normal. Thus, you need to distinguish between normal interference .. delegates coming to the US and trying to influence US politicians .. and our electoral process and that which we consider unacceptable interference which produces Harm to our electoral process.

    Remember during this whole circus the Blue political, media, and pundit class were all running around crying out that Trump Collusion with Russia "Harmed" our electoral process .. keeping in mind that such collusion was completely legal .. as ruled in Dems vs Trump and Russia.

    The Harm in question was based on the fact that the information was damaging to the main contestant. What Hillary and the DNC did to Bernie 100% was dirty deeds .. and that itself meddling with our electoral process doing what they were accusing Trump of.

    By hook or by crook - release of this information had a significant impact on the Election IMO -- The Bernie supporters perhaps not running over to the Red side .. but sitting on the couch .. the 2016 election had a record low turnout.

    Here is the problem though.. how is informing the US public about the dirty deeds of one of the voters against another Candidate a HARM to our electoral process ? Sure we can claim the action influenced the election .. but we should be thanking the Russians and Trump for an influence that helped, not harmed our electoral process. The elector knowing the damaging information about the candidate prior to the election helped our electoral process .. not harmed it.

    What Hillary and the DNC did was meddling in our electoral process which harmed the process .. not "Russia Russia Russia" - the sky is falling trope the woke Blue Crew was peddling.
     
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    And so does True Blue Biden and his crew - "spread lies and disinformation" which are happily parroted by the woke progressive cancel club joke.
     
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    I'm not confused at all, it's the trumpublican's in Congress that don't want to acknowledge our support for Ukraine has been the cheapest victory against totalitarian government we have ever had ... so far. The would rather throw that away than allow President Biden to claim any part of the victory he's brought all of Europe together for.
     
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    No.
    No.
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    Deflection and foreign disinforeign does not address the OP, it's more designed to conflate and create Vlad styled false equivalencies and fill the free world's zone with ****. So answer the OP.....why does Trump, Putin's buoy, only whine when he loses and that's parroted by some of his supporters along with all foreign actors that want to help damage American's solid election system with distrust? Sounds more like Soviet Active Measures to me. You?
     
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    "Victory" ? What victory is this .. our latest Proxy JV-Team is finished .. Russia now in control of all the parts of Ukraine behind the defensive wall .. .. Ukraine unable to breach even the first line of Russian Defense .. the counter offensive an utter disaster. How is this "Victory" ?

    The Ukraine army has been decimated .. reconstituted and destroyed again .. but now running out of bodies .. pressing women and old men into service .. and constantly low on ammo. Russia on the other hand is stronger than when it started and winning both wars going on .. the second to which your commentary seems woefully oblivious ... and that is the economic war. Sanctions have failed and thus backfired in our face. You realize that's what happens when sanctions fail right ? The EU is taking it on the chin hard economically .. the leaders of these nations under huge pressure on the basis of economic suffering.

    "Cheap" ? ? Who sold you that bill of goods friend ? .. you should ask yourself that question .. and I have heard that ridiculously false doublespeak trope "Cheapest victory against Russia"

    Victory or failure .. this action has been massively expensive .. not just in terms of actual Treasure .. which in of itself is massive, but in terms of economic hegemony.. where we are literally getting our backsides handed to us .. hard-core.

    This war has been a disaster .. Putin may well go down in history as the straw that broke the camel's back .. and now with the conflict in Israel .. the disaster is even worse .. just piling on more nails in the coffin of US Military and Economic Empire.

    How anyone can spin this as "winning" and "on the Cheap" is beyond Orwellian Doublespeak. Sure the Donor Class is winning -- loving the forever wars .. and the gravy train that flows with it .. but, the US .. and its citizens are losing badly. US foreign policy under Biden an unmitigated disaster.
     
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    I didn't agree to, or "parrot" anything. I merely answered your questions; saying that it would be silly for him to whine about voter fraud if he won, and that the reason his followers repeat what he says is because they follow him, and that's what "followers" do.
     

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