Trump ordered to pay over $350M for business fraud

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Show me the man and I will manufacture a crime is Stalinesque.
     
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    Comer and the rest of the House Republican thugs are trying that on Hunter and Joe.
    Stalinesque much ?
     
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    Burst out laughing at that one!!
     
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    That is a baseless argument,AFM and all you’re doing is repeating it endlessly. You don’t have any idea how to interpret statutes, and have no context when it comes to how courts work. It’s like me trying to do brain surgery.
     
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    Yep. Their prime witnesses are liars or aren’t lying enough for the GOP.
     
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    Yes, because abusing your authority to investigate is so funny! HAWHAWHAW!
     
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    Speaking of Nazis, it's like claiming an opponent is breaking the law and should be banned, yet he has never been charged much less found guilty. Definitely a Nazi thing to do.
     
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    He was sued and lost, certainly not convicted of a crime. You notice how all the losses are in one spot. Makes you wonder why everyone wants to sue Trump in NY.
     
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    The bank directly testified that didn't happen so who should believe? LOL do better.
     
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    There might be a correlation?
     
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    That poor guy is being persecuted! He’s being sued in NY not because that’s where the conduct took place but because the baaaad NY people got together and plotted to get good Donald! James and Carroll and judges all hugged each other and the jury in the Carroll case got bribed by George Soros!

    Yeah, you guys sound like that.
     
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    No doubt and that's on those TDS lefties trying to make a name for themselves, now you're going to get him elected again per every poll out there. Congrats, what neither of us wanted.
     
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    As I observed…
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

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    Clearly you do not understand how the system works.

    Trump said it was worth 4 billion DB adjusted it down to 2.5 billion, the minimum required for a loan of thus type and James determined he was only worth 1.6 billion thus fraud and he would not have qualified for the loan had he been honest. Trump's gaming, the system harms the system as a hole.That's why on the charging document.It says The People of New York v Donald Trump. Exec 6312 gives her full authority to prosecute fraud cases.
     
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    A lawyer should be disbarred for arguing the law and winning? Really puzzling comment.
     
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    DB made the loan. They reviewed the assets and set the interest rate. The loan was repaid on time with the agreed upon interest. No victims, no damages. It's very simple to understand. There is no fraud only banana republic justice behavior of NY.
     
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    And others testified it did happen — the difference is they brought receipts where the bank just wanted to continue doing business with him.

    You shouldn’t be telling others to do better seeing the amount of dodging that’s going on in this thread.
     
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    Who testified that they were victims and suffered damages??
     
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    Trump has been found guilty by several states, including the well known case in Colorado.

    The real question is how the Republican party can possibly tolerate insurrection

    This is America. I KNOW there are actually good, sane Republicans among our citizens.
     
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    Trump has not been found guilty.
     
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    It's more insidious than that.

    Taxes not paid lean on state citizens.

    Unfair loans, etc., make loans less available to honest businesses.

    We have LAWS about that - this wasn't some random accusation, it was an investigation that demonstrated that Trump was running his organization in a WILDLY illegal fashion.
     
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    There was no unfair loan. DB is a fiduciary. Their loan officers are sophisticated financial analysts who determine valuations and risks and set an interest rate. The loan was granted and paid back on time with interest. They suffered no damages. No other entities suffered damages.
     
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    Excellent summary of the absurdness of this case and the Constitutional ramifications which may lead to the Supreme Court ruling under the conditions summarized by Alan Dershowitz above.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1710269915788111891
     
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    My buddy tried that after his dui. No damages. No victims. No DUI.
    Didn’t work for him either
     
  25. The Mello Guy

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    And my buddy drives drunk all the time. Never hurts anyone or gets in accidents. Cops never even care!
     

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