Trump recorded having extremely lewd conversation about women in 2005 - EXTREMELY

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  1. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just what, in your opinion, should Hillary Clinton have done when she was publicly embarrassed, nationwide, as it was revealed that her husband had cheated on her?

    By calling her an "enabler," are you saying that she should have put her own hurt feelings aside, cozy up to those "other women," and worry about their wellbeing and emotions, despite the fact that they were having an illicit affair with her husband?

    Do you think any married woman, when she discovers her husband is cheating, is concerned about the "other" woman's feelings? Have you ever heard the phrase, "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned?"

    I do not understand how Trump, his supporters, or anyone else think calling Hillary an enabler is a good strategy, or will win him any votes.
     
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    Blah blah. Sure. He didn't condone "just start kissing them" or "grab them by the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)." Nope.

    I like how you ignore the piece of ass comment. Convenient.

    Look, when Bill Clinton is running for his third term you trumpophiliacs would have a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing point. Right now, you don't. Don't justify your own party idiocy by pointing out that Bill Clinton was elected and did unsavory things.

    It's downright (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiotic to do so.

    You've got no point, nothing to stand on. You've lost. (*)(*)(*)(*)ing grow up, stop being triggered, and deal with it.
     
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    In a nation where the F word is a part of normal conversation, to feign surprise and then some kind of moral high ground, is absolutely the ludicrous side of (*)(*)(*)(*) hitting the fan.

    Trump did what millions of men do, regularly, even if they lie about it to their wives, and the hypocrisy here, from an America that has lost its morality long ago is just cosmic level absurdity. In fact, it is closer to utter insanity.

    So these idiots are making this out to be the greatest evil ever perpetrated by a presidential candidate, when you have Hillary there, as revealed in wilkileaks unfit to serve in any office, and yet this obsession with vulgar language.... the absurdity of it makes me want to puke.

    We can use sex to sell everything under the sun, and we do, prostituting it, and yet we act shocked by vulgar sexual language?

    Like the Police Chief said to Rick in Casablanca..."there is gambling going on here, and I am shocked!" as he is handed his winnings.

    You know what is worse then trump saying those lewd remarks? The people who are wallowing in hypocrisy as they act like it is some kind of anomaly. And are trying to deny the commonality of it.
     
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    I'm a bit surprised this thread is still clinging doggedly to life. Have the media still got it running on auto-loop?

    The double standards are certainly shocking. Whatever the content, words are just words, and Clinton's various peccadillos, be they attacking her husband's rape victims, undermining national security or whatever else, are plainly worse.

    In the UK the national press is largely conservative. There are a few left wing rags, but there is absolutely no lack of conservative coverage. Are there no conservative media sources in the USA apart from Fox News? It's a pretty deplorable state of affairs where a presidential candidate can run almost unchallenged by the press.


     
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    You mean when she found out he was sexually harassing women, creating a hostile workplace, assaulting women, and engaging in serial sexual affairs with other women.

    She should have packed his bags and left them on the front doorstep and call a good divorce attorney. What do you think she should have done?

    Where did I say anything about "hurt feelings", she enabled his behavior and refused to hold him accountable in order not to jeopardize her own political future the women he assaulted and harassed be damned.
    When that husband sexually assaults and harasses them in the workplace a decent woman certainly would don't you think? And Hillary was not scorned.

    I don't understand how Clinton or her supporters or anyone else think they have ground to stand on trying to smear Trump over sexual behavior. THEY were the ones who told us it was none of our business and did not matter and was no reflection on what kind a president it would make the person.
     
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    He said "AND THEY LET YOU" what is so difficult for you to understand here. And what sexual misbehavior or you trying to attach to Reagan from 30 years ago?

    I don't have to wait until he run's he already did, TWICE. And TWICE the Democrats and the left elected him and would have done so a third time.

    So what legs do they now have to stand on to criticize Trump over what they loved to call "private sexual matters"?

    So invective is all you are left with? Pitiful.
     
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    No, you have no argument. You've lost.

    Again.

    Tell me how it is OK with the family values party and their constituency to promote a disgusting, grotesque man who claims it is OK to call his daughter a piece of ass as the next president.

    Stop. Deflecting.

    Additionally. Right now. This moment. Is Bill Clinton running for office. Yes, or no.

    Trigger alert in 3, 2, ......1....
     
  8. bois darc chunk

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    No, I said exactly what I meant. This is a straw man I won't address.

    So, she shouldn't have taken the option to stay married and work on her marriage, despite the vow she made? Interesting. I suppose then people would have blamed her for not standing by her man. Your answer tells me that you would have criticized her no matter what her choice was.

    She did nothing of the sort. Enabling gives authorization. That's the definition of the word. Being critical of women that knowingly slept with her husband certainly doesn't show that she was authorizing his behavior.

    Actually, no. I think a woman that has been cheated on several times, but remains in the marriage, it's because the infidelity carried no emotional commitment on his part. That's behavioral science. Men worry about the sexual aspect and women worry about the emotional aspect. Why would any wife feel compassion for another woman that knowingly cheated with a married man. You act like those women he had affairs with didn't know he was married. If you have no sympathy for a woman that was cheated on, why would you have sympathy for women that knowingly slept with a married man… and more importantly expect the wife to have sympathy for them? That's just unbelievable. You can pretend that they were all raped, but they weren't.

    Clinton didn't smear Trump. Trump's affairs were documented by him. The affair with Marla Maples was reported in lots of outlets, at the time it was happening. Trump admitted his own sexual escapades… on video and in interviews. Your statement is a false equivalency.

    What people criticize Trump over isn't that he had affairs, but that he has been recorded making several misogynistic comments, 11 years ago, and just a few days ago. It shows a pattern of misogynistic behavior.

    It's odd how you defend him when you say you're not voting for him.
     
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    I want to clarify; I agree with everything you said - and I personally am not voting for Clinton or Trump.
     
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    Fees you sound like Trump now.

    Send to me they are not have you read the news lately? But do tell me how the Democrats who did and so support the sleaziest man to ever hold the office who did sexually harass and assault subordinates and women over whom he had powers can now attack Trump?

    Stop. Deflecting.

    Where have I claimed he is?

    Tell me did he run twice and was he elected by the Democrats twice while they longed for a third term and do they still worship him to this day?

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    All you have as a defense of this grotesque charlatan is to (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about a president elected decades ago.

    Hilarious.

    Sorry bro, you, as usual, FAIL.
     
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    What you said committed the salient facts. In some circles known as a lie by omission. I responded in the actual context. So try again.

    Actually she would have been looked upon as a strong woman whobis mkt going to let a man make a fool out her nor support and defend his sexual assaults on other women.

    Why do you keep trying to pretend this is only about a sexual affair?

    She did everything of the sort including calling them his "rodeo queens" and being co-chairwoman of the "bimbo squad" during the campaign.

    Spare me the eomtional argument, there are no emotions in their marriage it is one of political expediancy. I have no sympathy for Hillary and her circumstance and THEIR history and HER actions involved in it.

    24/7.

    And with Clinton the bar was set that those are personal matters and we should not judge nor concern ourselves with them. In fact those that did were labled "panty-sniffers". So the left has had a sudden moral ephany?

    Somee comments that more disqualifying than sexual harassment and sexual assaults and felonies to attempt to cover it up when being sued for it a federal court?

    Please elaborate.

    I defend the truth and call out Democrats and the left who attack him yet not only defend Clinton but elected him twice and would so so today if they could. They don't have a leg to stand on here.
     
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    I asked your opinion. There was no lie by omission, for Pete's sake. I have no opinion on what she should have done. Her marriage is her business.





    That is your opinion. She chose to honor her vows and stay married. I've already explained to you that when one spouse cheats on the other and are looking at a potential divorce, most men are concerned with the sexual aspect and most women are concerned with the emotional aspect. Lots of women stay with their husbands when the fling meant nothing to him.

    I'm not pretending anything. Bill Clinton admitted affairs with Gennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky. Why do you keep trying to pretend that he's been found guilty of rape? He hasn't. Do I think he is a choir boy? No. But blaming his wife for his misconduct is misplaced.




    Oh boo hoo, she called them a name. You think that means she deserves being called an enabler of rape because she was angry at them for sleeping with her husband?



    Citation needed, or this is simply your opinion.



    Judge away, if you are so inclined. Just be sure to apply the same judgement to Trump that you do to Bill Clinton, or you're being hypocritical.

    I won't even attempt to speak for the "left" that you seem to want to argue against.


    As others have said, Trump is running against HILLARY Clinton, not BILL Clinton. Trump has made misogynistic comments, not Hillary Clinton, nor did she sexually harass or assault anyone, much less get sued in federal court.

    Please link me to one post you've made here where you've called out Republicans… defending the truth and all. Was it OK for Trump to say it was fine for Howard Stern to call Ivanka a "piece of ____?" Was it OK for Trump to make the statements he made to Billy Bush? Was it OK to fat shame Miss Universe? Was it OK for Trump to tweet that everyone should check out her sex tape?

    BTW, I wasn't defending Hillary, as much as asking how you think she deserves the criticism leveled at her as an enabler of Bill's sexual misconduct. In my opinion, he deserves criticism for his past bad deeds. You seem to think she deserves criticism for his bad deeds because she didn't divorce him.
     

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