Trump Retweets ‘#FireFauci’

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just checked. The title is not Trump retweets DeAnna.
     
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    Do you understand the graph in the first place? Have you even looked at it? I have a feeling . . . no, I know the answer is no. I'll tell you what, I'll post the graph over the past few years and erase the dates on the x axis. If you are right, you should easily be able to point to where Trump's miracle occurred. It should be unmistakable. Up to the challenge?
     
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    What I see is that you don’t understand the arithmetic of how unemployed is calculated.
     
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    Right now at the daily press briefing, Fauci is addressing the fact that he was asked a "hypothetical question" yesterday by the media and coverage of what he said became problematic.

    His experience is that when the first formal recommendations were made from the medical experts to the Trump administration to have a "shut down", that Trump immediately took their advice and implemented the 15-day plan. Fauci also said Trump immediately went with their [Fauci/Birx] recommendations to extend it 30-days. So Fauci clarified that they made no recommendation to shut down any earlier than we did.

    Media are troublemakers, dividing the country for politics.
     
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    And that's adorable for you to think so. So why do you refuse to look at a graph of said unemployment over time and tell us where the Trump economic miracle occurred? The "arithmetic" hasn't changed, so why do you fear showing us where such a change happened? Anyone should be able to spot it with ease on a simple graph . . . if there is any reality to your claim at all.

    You claim to be concerned with the arithmetic, so why are you so terrified to actually look at the arithmetic?
     
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    It took Trump weeks to act on recommendations that governors were already implementing. I'm sorry, but this is nonsense. Trump was still downplaying the threat of this virus when medical experts were warning him to take it seriously.
     
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    That's not what was just said. He took it seriously when his medical experts told him to take it seriously.

    Governors and Mayors are supposed to take care of their citizens. They shouldn't need a federal authority to tell them when or how to do that. If we need the U.S. government to tell everyone what to do, then we don't really have any need for local or state officials. Everyone just do what the federal government decides.
     
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    Even when medical experts told him to take it seriously he was downplaying it, comparing it to the flu, saying cases would soon go down to 0, and saying it would just go away on its own.
     
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    Exactly. He also spoke to the Congressional Black Caucus this morning. As you point out Trump immediately implemented a mitigation strategy upon initial recommendation both for the 15 and additional 30 days.

    This from Jesse Watters today. The Democrats are comparing Trump’s action to perfection. If Trump had acted “perfectly” and implemented a shutdown on on 1/31 the same day as the travel ban he would have sent the Senate just a few days before their impeachment vote, Super Tuesday would have been cancelled, and Easter services would have been cancelled. What would have been the reaction from the Democrats and MSM?
     
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    He immediately acted on their recommendations. He went with 15 days and then added another 30 days.
     
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    That isn't remotely true.
     
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    You have information that Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx are lying ??? Let’s see it.
     
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    Fauci just said it is true. Don't believe Fauci now?
     
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    Why did many governors wait even longer than the Trump administration to take any action? If they thought it was more urgent, they could have acted. Some of them waited a week or longer to take the federal government's advice. That was their choice. That's what states' rights are all about.

    Don't like the Coronavirus response in your city/state? Oust the mayor or governor at the next election and replace him/her. I love TX Gov. Greg Abbott. I think we'll keep him. :heart:
     
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    I don't need your apology nor appeals to authority nor going to get into dissertations about a BROAD trade policy I have nor the time or interest, there are economist on both sides of the trade issue and posting battles of my authority is better than your authority prove nothing.

    The fact remains, this is medical issue AND an economics issue and we don't turn both decisions over to the doctors and scientist. I'm listening to a reporter asking Trump about it and questionings "well would you ever go against what the scientist say" basically demanding he turn the future of the country over to an all powerful, unelected, beyond question or doubt group of people. Not one word from this reporter about ?Mr. President WILL you listen to you economics advisers to make sure we do not have a total economic collapse and there are NO resources to treat people and listen to their advice and not ignore it?"

    But bottom line Trump can only advise, he cannot order local officials to remove their ordered closings. Trumps advisers need to inform him of that and that should be fair game for reporters to go after.
     
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    It wasn't Trump saying he was going to fire Fauci and the WH release a clears statement on the matter.............it's over.
     
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    And your projecting that here is the definition of supposition and conjecture.
     
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    Technically accurate, but without context, it seems like he was agreeing about firing Fauci, which he clearly wasn't.

    It's like when the right goes crazy because Obama said, "you didn't build that." They, of course, refuse to get the context.

    These are very much the same.
     
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    About 3 1/2 years less than Trump. On the other hand, he has over 50 years experience dealing with disease & pandemics compared to something close to zero for all the people running cities, counties, states & countries. That makes him the ideal person to be in charge of the response. In case you missed it, he is just the person giving advice. Ultimately the people who run things actually take the decisions. If they are smart & care about saving lives they listen carefully & act accordingly.
     
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    Trump has been managing things necessary for our economy all his life. How about compared to Trumps economic advisers compared to Dr. Fauci? How much does Fauci have compared to Vice President Pence who is heading the task force. Should we make it against the law that no one can leave their homes and all businesses must close? That would save lives. How much support would that have gotten back in January? Dr. Fauci was pressed into to giving a response to a woulda coulda shoulda question and he gave a THEORETICAL nonsensical answer admitting that there would have been pushback. And the reporter then did the "shouldn't he listen to the scientist and medical experts?" Granting them some final say in this without regards to the economic impact. The point being it's not JUST a medical decision it is also an ECONOMIC decision and those economic experts need to be too.
     
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    I got the context of Obama's sentiments. Still disagreed with him. Government funding is there true, but the manpower was done by individuals, who yes, actually did build that.

    Thank god the Solyndra era is over. Though by all appearances, we will have a worse form of government by the time the Democrats have majority power again.
     
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    You appear to be rambling....again. I realise that seeing people contradict the Dear Leader causes you folks to lose your minds, but doing it in private would be nice. It really is getting a bit Pyongyang around here. Unfortunately for Fauci his expertise shows up the ignorance of the Dear Leader, so the Red Guards feel the need to attack him at every opportunity.
     
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    And when all you are left with aren your bromides and platitudes.......

    Should the doctors and scientist be making the economic decisions?
     

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