Trump revealed highly classified information to Russians in meeting, officials say Pt 2

Again, I think your story is as you got it.
It is mr. Anonymous I don't accept.

 

Nah, I just read lots of things. When several arrows point in the same direction, I don't look the other way and think that is the "real" direction. I lived through Watergate. I remember Nixon saying the investigation into him was a witch hunt. I remember Nixon firing Archibald Cox and the Saturday Night Massacre. I remember lots of people not believing that Nixon could possibly be guilty of crimes, and that he even said he was not a crook. I also know that those that don't learn the lessons of history are often doomed to repeat them. You lived through Watergate too. Don't you remember those things? Don't you see the same things happening again?

Enjoy Kauai, btw!

 

I voted against Nixon. As a loyal Democrat, I hated Nixon. It's how we operated. This is far different
President's have wide open ranges on top secret things. Could be he tried to trick Russia.
I was a broker for the property manager of the San clemente property in California. He gave me some good insight into the Watergate issue. The FBI talked to him for a week. In his home were photos of Nixon holding his kids. Dad was also in them

It would be nice to see and hear from a person who is close to the president

 

That's just common sense at work and a eye to detail

 

Post a link to proof Bush lied............Recognized news outlet only, no blogs. Keep in mind the parameters that define a lie below.

To say Bush lied you must prove he intended to deceive or you just posted a libelous statement.

 

It's the same argument I use for blogs with anonymous domain registrations.

Q: Why would anyone buy a car, watch or bicycle from a someone wearing a rubber mask?
A: They wouldn't.

 

I take it you voted for the car salesman then .......conned real good.

 

I voted for Trump because he was a better alternative to Crooked Hillary, beside if Trump fell on his face, we'd always get Pence who I thought was a better choice in the first place. I'd prefer Pence choose the successor to Ginsberg rather than Trump.

Have you ever bought a car from a salesman in a rubber mask who refuses to show his face?

 

If you voted Trump don't be surprised when you have to watch him get cuffed or resign, say in a year and a half or less.

 

Amazing how your timeline keeps changing, I remember you saying he wouldn't make it to inauguration lol

 

Please hold your breath for us.

Answer my question please......Have you ever bought a car from a salesman in a rubber mask who refuses to show his face? A simple yes or no will do.

 

You have more confidence in Trump's intellectual ability than I do. I don't think he is clever enough to "trick" Russia. I think his narcissism made him want attention and he said it to impress the Russians. McMaster confirmed that it was impulsive, but in the context of the discussion.

 

I think, that as everyone is fully aware, that the POTUS may elect to declassify anything he chooses, MSM has simply sensationalized the mundane. Israel has given no indication that view this as an issue security wise, or politically. MSM and it's anonymous sources have merely been churning out nonsubstantive melodrama for their audience. Enjoy the show. It has to be better than binging on Kardashians.

 

I think you might have missed the Israeli reaction, and this hasn't been sensationalized. Trump really stepped in it this time.

Yes, he can declassify, but sensitive information of this type shouldn't be shared and declassified afterwards as a CYA. If he wanted to share something of importance with the Russians, that could/should have been arranged beforehand. What Trump did was exactly what many feared he would do.

I'm tired of this show. If it were up to me, I'd cancel it.

I've never watched more than a minute of the Kardashians, and it was only that long because I dropped the remote and the batteries fell out before I could get the channel changed.

 

McMasters said Trump wasn't privy to the sensitive details, so couldn't reveal them. Trump himself say Israel wasn't mentioned. As transcripts seem to exist, I doubt the leaks are true. What we know for certain is that SOMEBODY is watching the Kardashians.

 

Anonymous has been the part of every story I can recall out of DC, at least on the leading edge of them.

 

You do realize that Trump saying he never mentioned Israel confirmed it was Israel, right? No one had accused him of saying the code word classified intelligence came from Israel. It's akin to McMaster saying Trump didn't say anything about sources and methods. He was never accused of that either.

 

As usual you are in denial and focused on the minutia.....your position have evolved so much from the original that you are holding Trump above the law. Ask yourself why if you can, he is unfit for the office he was helped into.

 

I think one could presume Trumps saying he didn't mention Israel could lead to that presumptuous conclusion. It's a moot point though as MSM had reported that Israel was the ally.

 

The minutia? Oh yes, the facts. I do tend to obsess over those. Sorry.

 

It is about you when you demonstrate a total inability to get that the Commander in Chief did nothing whatsoever illegal, we all can disagree with his foreign policy, but the irrefutable fact remains the only crime committed here was committed by the WAPO sources.

 

Authorization for use of force, given to “well-known,” for 9/11 maneuvers:

July 1997, South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers; well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/countries/Iraq/speech.htm

Call to make us miss our Al Quacka targets, that is Iraq:

“As we said before to those who launched aggressions on us, including the US, in and before Um-Almarik (the mother of the battles), the world, like Iraq and its Arab nation, needs steadfastness to face the aggression, make it miss its targets. It must not allow the US to be victorious. The victory of the US and its allies over Iraq would conceal the opposing attitude and analysis, and would not allow it to emerge again for a long time.” (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001.)

Support for own ideas of justice through terrorism, and calls for them to be reassured and helped:

“On the basis of what we said about Iraq while confronting aggressions, the world now needs to abort the US aggressive schemes, including its aggression on the Afghan people, which must stop.

Again we say that when someone feels that he is unjustly treated, and no one is repulsing or stopping the injustice inflicted on him, he personally seeks ways and means for lifting that justice. Of course, not everyone is capable of finding the best way for lifting the injustice inflicted on him. People resort to what they think is the best way according to their own ideas, and they are not all capable of reaching out for what is beyond what is available to arrive to the best idea or means.

To find the best way, after having found their way to God and His rights, those who are inflicted by injustice need not to be isolated from their natural milieu, or be ignored deliberately, or as a result of mis-appreciation, by the officials in this milieu. They should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings. It is only normal to say that punishment is a necessity in our world, because what is a necessity in the other world must also be necessary in our world on Earth. But, the punishment in the other world is faire and just, and the prophets and messengers of God (peace be upon them all) conducted punishment and called for it in justice, and not on the basis of suspicions and whims.” (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001.)

“Once again, we say that, injustice and the pressure that results from it on people lead to explosions. As explosions are not always organized, it is to be expected that they may harm those who make them and others. The events of September 11, should be seen on this basis, and on the basis of imbalanced reactions, on the part of governments accused of being democratic, if the Americans are sure that these were carried out by people from abroad.

To concentrate not on what is important, but rather on what is the most important, we say again that after having seen that the flames of any fire can expand to cover all the world, it first and foremost, needs justice based on fairness. The best and most sublime expression of this is in what we have learned from what God the Al Mighty ordered to be, or not to be.” (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001.)

Who are the magical “they” that Saddam said, “should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings?”

 

What you've failed to see is that I have said Trump has the ability to declassify anything, but doing so after impulsively sharing it with the Russians is not ethical and is a CYA move.

There's really no justification for what Trump did, unless your partisanship won't allow you to admit he made a mistake. Russians shouldn't have been in the Oval Office, considering Russia just executed an act of cyber warfare against us. However, Trump admitted he couldn't say no to Putin. Then Trump needed to stroke his ego and blurt out an example of the fantastic intel he gets… to Russians, the ally of Iran, about Israel, the enemy of Iran, without permission and with the understanding that it wouldn't be shared. But, by all means, continue to excuse his behavior. That's why he is the way he is, because few will hold him accountable.

 

Alright... I am going to admit it. I did not read the O.P., but I will if.... if.....

the sources are not anonymous.

So, someone please @ me if there is actually a named source here. Otherwise it is just more left wing propaganda.

 

I saw an Iranian officer flunk an electronics test in Memphis Tennessee, and sweat bullets, and after I asked the instructor, why the Iranian officer was so upset, he said something like, “If you flunk the course we don’t kill you.” Then came the 444 days of glory in Iran, complements of French foreign policy:


Air France is so nice.

“Glory be to the Bomb, and to the Holy Fallout. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. World without end. Amen.”

A few years later I loaded parts into a box for Iran, for the planes (C-130) they were using as bombers, and asked the officer, “Why are we sending parts to Iran?” and he asked, “Do you want the other guy to win?” {Technically, the box went to France.}

Then Obama gives Iran billions of dollars, in the most bone headed move ever. Where was Congress in all that?

We did not like Obama’s (Kerry/Clinton) foreign policy; you don’t like Trump’s foreign policy. Hey, vote Republican next time and help us out.

I am not excusing behavior; I am for catching and punishing the criminal WAPO spies.