Trump Serious About Venezuela - Re-Instates Monroe Doctrine

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm no fan of Trump, but in the case of Venezuela he is just doing as he is told. Yes, it appears he is an enthusiastic altar boy, but anti-Venezuelan efforts started long before Donald came along. Our boys have been wanting Venezuela's assets for a very long time.
     
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    There is no need to intervene in Venezuela. The government will collapse eventually. Socialism always does.
     
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    Here is yet ANOTHER wake-up call in clarion chords, that our castle has fallen:
    source: https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=23&page=transcript

    America has long been taken over by alien forces who have no regard for "the Rule of Law" as it is so pronounced, so violating a treaty or more, along with long standing policies, means absolutely NOTHING to said types of people-beasts.
     
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  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then why doesn't Washington get the damn hell out of there so they can choose their own destiny.
     
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  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm going to be honest here. Our government knows fully well what they're doing to the poor, and they know it isn't going to work, so it has to be deliberate. It's called genocide, but they can't say that, so they make up excuses to keep the intent hidden from the American people.

    According to estimates, the world will not be able to support more than a few billion people. The Washington one world ideologues being God less, and having no faith in anything other than themselves, are doing what pagans always do - killing off the population to take control of everything and everyone.

    The rationale they use is the same as that of all ideologues and sociopaths, that they are the one's who know what's best for the world so what's a few deaths here and there. In other words the end justifies the means. We saw it with the ideologues of the Soviet Union and the millions that died, as well as with the Nazi ones during their attempt at a Thousand Year Reich.

    Since it's not politically correct for Washington to come out and say they're killing off the 'untermenchen', they're covering it up. One of the means used to eliminate populations is sanctioning medication so the disabled, elderly and ill will die. Another means is by giving support to the lowest elements of society, such as terrorists, criminals and Nazis.
     
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  6. AlifQadr

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    That is the reason for me posting the much ignored section of "The Monroe Doctrine"; it was to show in PLAIN LANGUAGE that since Ronald Wilson Reagan, et al, there has been many shenanigans from BOTH sides of the aisles; the repugnant DNRs.
     
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    We have enough uncompleted work rebuilding our infrastructure and inner cities. I think we can probably help Columbia and Brazil help them, but I've seen no indication that they wish to become a US Territory, and certainly they haven't made the case for why it would be in our National Interest to take them on as a territory.
     
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    At least it would stop the starving and health catastrophe.
     
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    Suicide is not a destiny, its the end.
     
  10. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like that Russia doesn't impose itself on nations, and goes to their defense when their sovereignty is threatened. Shouldn't we be doing that? Instead we're the ones threatening their sovereignty, and then to add insult to injury, we use our propaganda networks and pretend we're doing the opposite.
     
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    Laughing so hard, I can’t catch my breathe.
     
  12. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny how you consider leaders that give social benefits to the poor mobsters, but not those whose pockets are filled by Western interests?
     
  13. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And from whom did the socialists steal that money? The productive and that able? Or did God just let fall from the sky?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of the problems with South America is that it's business' are run on a personal level and connections, rather than an impersonal one like in the US and the West in general. They do manage though, but the more affluent in Venezuela should have taken the poor into account rather than ship their money off to foreign banks.

    Then again if the Venezuelan government did better the lives of the people, it would have frightened Washington and they would end up throwing it into the stone age the way they did Libya. At the time we bombed, they were the wealthiest country in Africa with some of the best social services in the world.
     
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    And just why is the poors’ need for penicillin more important than me taking my family to Atlantis? I worked for that money. The hours of my life were given in exchange for that money. I gave my all to earn it. So, why is some poor strangers tears more important than my child’s laughs and smiles?

    Venezuelans would have been better off emulating the wealthy instead of emasculating them. If they had, they wouldn’t be in hell now.
     
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    I like Venezuela so much I am sick of Maduro.

    https://borgenproject.org/top-10-facts-about-poverty-in-venezuela/

    Top 10 Facts About Poverty in Venezuela

     
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    Ted Cruz Threatens Maduro With ‘Every Lever’ If He Doesn’t Release Six Captive Americans.
    Socialist hospitality.
     
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    Be even more honest. Thanks for the response. Hey, I'm all for capitalism and our country dealing with it's own issues first. I wish we'd start by taking away funding for other nations. Secondly, I'd like to see us get out of other nations. However, when we leave there will be a sucking sound and others who do not have the resources we do will rush in. It's happened before.
     
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    You are wrong.
    What do you do when you are in business, you built connections.
    I call that Vitamin C. You have to built a spider web to make you business flourish. Without it you are doomed.
    You do that all over the world, no matter were your business is located.
    What you are talking about is corruption, you think it is not around in the US and in Europe.
    Are you kidding me ?
    The difference is, in the US and in Europe, it is officially a crime, every else it is just part of live.
    But than it is part of live in the US and Europe, too, despite being a crime.
    This is the way business across the world is done, from the bottom up to the very top.
    Greasing, That's what you do, if you are in business
     
  20. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Other nations go into countries when they are invited, while we go in uninvited - that is the difference. What you should be asking is what are we doing, and why are we hated so much that we have to force and bully ourselves into other countries?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They do build connections in S. America, but it's personal connections and not on competitiveness. Look it's a different system and they do manage.
     
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    Oh yeah. They’ll be living on Mars, discover a cure for cancer, and invent a perpetual motion machine. South America—Venezuela, Brazil, Peru, Aregentina, etc., the saviors of humanity, with Putin and Maduro leading the way. LOL
     
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    I don't find it funny at all, but do find it business as usual. Presidents come and go, and god help them if they deviate from an entrenched empire based foreign policy, where the economic interests of our big bankers, corporations, and the elites that own them are called "national interests" and "national security interests".

    With that said, what russia might do in south america is like a flea climbing up an elephant's leg, screaming, "rape"!. But the same cannot be said for communist china. The greatest threat to the US, in the future is china, or I should say, the greatest potential threat. And less you forget, or choose to ignore it, the position china has in the world today are compliments of our politicians, working on behalf of our neoliberal capitalists, to help them max out the wealth at the top, at the cost to our middle and our bottom, which hollowed out our economy, manufacturing, enriching and enabling china to become what they are today and what they will be tomorrow.

    The total lack of basic intelligence involved in what our gov't and neoliberal capitalists have done, in regards to our economy and china's is astounding. And the present and future costs of this idiocy is unacceptable to the sane and responsible minds.

    Our politicians and our max profit, at any and all costs neoliberals have helped tremendously to create this newly empowered and enriched enemy, an enemy that robs and steals, that doesn't play by western rules and values, a communist dictatorship, and the carrot was 80 cents an hour labor for our manufacturers, that were then allowed to ship those low labor goods back to sell in our markets, even as this was destructive of our middle class and our ability to be independent.

    Who in their right mind enables and empowers a natural enemy to democratic principles? And so now, the monster our stupid Ivy League politicians and greedy capitalists helped to create is becoming a real threat in our hemisphere, as well as economically. And perhaps involving themselves with a nation that sits on top of the largest fossil fuel reserve on earth, even as our own gov't via our CIA and other resources have done all we can do to make Venezuela unstable because we don't like their socialism, i.e. their oil being nationalized, and the fact that american corporations no longer can exploit their resources for greater wealth of our elites.

    Does anyone really believe we are interested in the plights of the people of that nation? ha ha We don't give a damn about those people. We tell those lies in order to justify doing what we have always done in south america. And some of us actually believe those lies, when there are decades of evidence, gleaned from reality that speak to the contrary.

    And yet the democrats are so concerned about trump and his lying? ha ha When I look at our gov't, all that I see are dangerous liars, who obviously don't give a damn about anyone, including the american people that they have refused to represent for decades, according to the Princeton Study who just used congressional record as hard evidence.

    You must know and be painfully aware of what we are, what our gov't is, before you can change it, bring it back into line.
     
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    No, I know the answers. Big business wants to open new areas which are ripe for picking. They cannot do that unless they are allowed to enter. The only way they can be safe is to have the military make it safe. Also, there are those in every country which actually do want to see what it is like to live like we do here, with some exceptions. This all trickles down to the working man sitting in a cubicle writing code for a new phone or device of some sort, and further down to those who manufacture the material and assemble the devices. It even trickles down to those who take your card or cash and put a receipt and your purchase into a bag for you and say, 'thank you for shopping at ___'. And further, it gives garbage men/women(are there any?) something to pick up on their route, to the landfill operators who move and bury the trash, to even the engineers who design a landfill. We forgot about the transportation to and from work, the heavy equipment used at the landfill and the designers and builders of those and garbage trucks. We forget that someone has to machine valves for the hydraulics on those, and design a better valve. Some have to move pennies around on paper or in software to account for all of it. So, it does benefit lots of folks. It isn't just as simple as you want to make it out to be.

    Those against all that are those making the money at the moment. They don't want the competition.
     

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