Trump: States already clear of Virus can open 'literally' tomorrow.

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  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    Well, please do not rant about left or even democrat when you reply to me. I am neither.
     
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    Then how is it that Trump is wrong when, "Trump: States already clear of Virus can open 'literally' tomorrow"?
     
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    LOLOL, yeah, right. You couldn't be any more liberal if you were AOC herself.
     
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    What about Nevada !!!!

    The virus is biggest among homeless bums and illegals
     
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    None of those States are clear of the virus. All you need in.........ONE.
     
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    'AOC?'
     
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    To be fair you only know what he posts here. That doesn't mean that he is X party. I myself am an Independent in the true sense of the word. I belong to no party and have never been a part of any party. I consider parties to be a detriment to the US and can lead to its downfall.

    However if you went just by my posts here you'd think I was a staunch conservative who has only voted for Republicans my whole life.

    Nothing could be further from the truth. Whenever I take one of those political tests I normally fall left of center.

    You see I hold many ideas from both sides of the aisle. Pro-choice, pro-2nd Amendment, support gay marriage, am against AA laws. I could go on but that's good enough to show my point on my beliefs.

    Anyways, I only get to respond to about maybe at most 2% of the things that I support.

    So just because you only see him bashing Trump doesn't mean he's an AOC style liberal.
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ The more I learn, see and hear the more I think it was a mistake to close the economy. Take precautions, sanitize often, masks may have been sufficient. At the time nobody seemed to know. We learn more each week.
    This may be Trump's biggest success - or his most regrettable mistake. Hopefully it will turn out that he was correct.
     
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    Hindsight is always 20/20. It's easy to look back and say "Trump should have....!" Not so easy to see what steps should be taken in the here and now. I hope that people take this into consideration come Nov.
     
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    SD already has 300+ cases and ND just reported 170 cases. Those other two states will be reporting their cases soon enough.

    The ADULTS are well aware that this virus does NOT GAF about the political party affiliation of the states where it is infecting ANYONE who is NOT Social Distancing.
     
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    Except that the Obama administration PROVIDED your tangerine drama queen with the EXACT STEPS that NEEDED to be taken THREE YEARS AGO!

    Facts matter except to those who make excuses for the ongoing FAILURES of their pumpkin bumpkin.
     
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    If the State shuts down any contractor needed to support the Army or Navy...(see all powers in section 8 ), State Governors will lose if they try to block them being opened:

    "To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof."

    "provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States"

    So if say a Governor tried to stop food production, any transport, anything that would hurt the general welfare, any production needed by other states whatsoever, see "To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;"

    "Liberals" have long taught us what they can do with social programs in States with the "commerce clause" and "general welfare," and now you can't ignore it because YOU want the economy to be bad for the election.

    If YOU really cared, the topic most important would be appropriate protective gear for workers, see OSHA (And what power of Congress allowed that administration? General Welfare?).
     
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    Whatever. When almost the only thing I see from a poster is "Trump sucks, sincerely, Australia" rhetoric and hardly any objective thought or facts out of all the thousands of posts they have posted I consider them an extreme leftist.
     
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    Between all those four states they only have 32 total deaths due to COVID as of yesterday. It should be up to their governors what action should be taken. Not some liberal from Australia and not some politician from NY or California.

    Wyoming:
    317 laboratory-confirmed cases
    111 probable cases in Wyoming
    2 COVID-19 related deaths

    https://health.wyo.gov/publichealth/infectious-disease-epidemiology-unit/disease/novel-coronavirus/

    North Dakota:
    14747 Total Tested
    14120 Negative
    627 Positive Cases
    189 Recovered
    17 Currently Hospitalized
    53 Total Hospitalized
    13 Deaths
    https://www.health.nd.gov/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/north-dakota-coronavirus-cases

    South Dakota:
    1685 cases
    7 deaths
    https://doh.sd.gov/news/coronavirus.aspx#updates

    Montana:
    COVID-19 Cases in Montana
    Total Number of Cases 433
    Number of Deaths 10
    https://dphhs.mt.gov/publichealth/cdepi/diseases/coronavirusmt/demographics
     
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    Tell me what country, state, city, whatever will ever achieve a total elimination of COVID19. Should we lock down a whole planet until there isn't even one case of COVID19 in existence on the whole planet?
     
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    So you want us to live our lives in fear forever? nope. Those who are suceptible can lock themselves away. The rest of us have a life to live. Losing a small percentage to the virus is not an excuse to shut down and control the lives of everybody else.
     
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    Good idea. We know it works .. look at New Zealand.
     
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    Another one who doesn't get that it's the asymptomatic carriers who are the problem. It's not about you, it's about the danger we ALL represent to our communities. Any of us could be infected, and spreading it around every time we leave the house.

    It's astonishing to me that people still think a lock down is only about themselves.
     
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    Or at least until there is a proven successful therapy, pending a vaccine.
     
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    ~ Most people in the U.S. have likely already been exposed and carry the antibodies. They are immune - hence so many test positive. We are in the end stage of this.
    Get ready to go back to work ... :aww::b0x0rz:
     
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    Which means you too have partisan binders on. :shrug:
     
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    We aren't even half way through it
     
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    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
     
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    ~ Sadly it seems the "Doom & Gloom" advocates are actually wishing for worse results than expected. The news of the day keeps pointing to recovery - but some fail to believe. :confuse:ยด
     
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    New Zealand has a good plan but they don't expect the virus to be totally eradicated like the previous poster seems to expect. They are smaller and have tight immigration laws that they actually enforce. We are a lot larger and have a whole party that is hell bent on doing everything they can to do to eliminate any enforcement of any immigration standards.
     
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