Trump supporters more likely to view blacks negatively

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  1. Pipette8

    Pipette8 Well-Known Member

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    According to a Reuters Poll:

    Supporters of U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump are more likely to describe African Americans as "criminal," "unintelligent," "lazy" and "violent" than voters who backed some Republican rivals in the primaries or who support Democratic contender Hillary Clinton, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll.
    Ahead of the Nov. 8 election to replace Barack Obama, the first black U.S. president, the poll also showed significant numbers of Americans in both the Republican and Democratic parties view blacks more negatively than whites, harbor anxiety about living in diverse neighborhoods and are concerned that affirmative action policies discriminate against whites.
    Republicans in the survey expressed these concerns to a greater degree than Democrats, with Trump supporters presenting the most critical views of blacks.

    The poll, conducted between March and June, interviewed 16,000 Americans and included 21 questions on attitudes about race. It sought responses from voters who support Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, Clinton, the presumptive Democratic nominee, and her rival U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders. It also surveyed supporters of U.S. Senator Ted Cruz and Ohio Governor John Kasich, the last two Republican candidates to drop out of the race.


    CHARACTER TRAITS
    Nearly half of Trump's supporters described African Americans as more "violent" than whites. The same proportion described African Americans as more "criminal" than whites, while 40 percent described them as more "lazy" than whites.
    In smaller, but still significant, numbers, Clinton backers also viewed blacks more critically than whites with regard to certain personality traits. Nearly one-third of Clinton supporters described blacks as more "violent" and "criminal" than whites, and one-quarter described them as more "lazy" than whites.
    Some 31 percent of Trump supporters said they "strongly agree" that "social policies, such as affirmative action, discriminate unfairly against white people," compared with 21 percent of Cruz supporters, 17 percent of Kasich supporters and 16 percent of Clinton supporters.
    To be sure, not all Trump supporters expressed negative attitudes about blacks. No more than 50 percent of his supporters rated blacks negatively, relative to whites, on any of the six character traits in the poll.
    Yet when their answers to the poll questions were compared with responses from supporters of other candidates, Trump supporters were always more critical of blacks on personality traits, analysis of the results showed

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-race-idUSKCN0ZE2SW

    There is a good chart in this Reuters story, but I couldn't copy and paste it. Basically:
    When asked about Intelligence approximately 33% of Trump voters, and 29% of Clinton voters thought that blacks were not as intelligence as whites.
    Regarding Work Ethics: 40% of Trump voters and 28% of Clinton voters thought blacks were lazier than whites.
    When it comes to Manners: 45% of Trump voters and 30% of Clinton voters thought blacks to more rude than whites.
    Concerning Violence: 49% of Trump voters and 34% of Clinton voters thought blacks were more violent than whites.
    Regarding Lawfulness: 47% of Trump voters and 32% of Clinton voters thought blacks were less lawful than whites.

    Interesting poll. I would have thought the percentage of Clinton voters who viewed blacks negatively would have been much lower.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what exactly is wrong with the poll, seems accurate to me. On a percentage basis blacks are more violent then whites, that is just a fact and everything else is basically even between trump and Hillary. Sounds to me like trump supporters actually know their statistics better meaning they are more intelligent.
     
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    This gives me a little more respect for Hillary supporters...they recognize the truth of the matter at almost the same rate as Trump supporters :roflol:
     
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    Meaningless because everyone knows (and are constantly told here) that conservatives and GOPers don't see people in terms of groups or race - only individuals.:roflol:
     
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    Give Black Americans their own homeland in Mississippi...

    That's a way to give them what they want, while giving us what we want too.
     
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    PLEASE tell me you think babies are tabla rasa.
     
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    49% of Trump supporters vs 34% of Hillary supporters thought that Blacks were more violent.

    That's 15%, that fits nicely with the Black, and Black mixed populations in the U.S.A.

    How do you know it's not Blacks themselves who skew the statistics?
     
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    Please tell me you don't think that. People are not blank slates. Go read Steven Pinker, and he will set you straight on this, and many other, issues.
     
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    Nat: You do know it's possible to look at things from more than one angle, right? The questions, the way they're worded make you have to answer what you think of "blacks", not "Black Individual A or B". As a result, it's a group answer by default. And then, just because what I may think of a group does NOT equate to what I think about individuals.

    As an example: I know black people who are very kind, modest. I know blacks who've worked hard to put food on the plate for their kids. I literally have nothing against blacks as a whole. But I've also seen the news. You can't tell me these disproportionate acts against police, the knock-out game, etc are nonviolent actions. My late grandfather-in-law kicked me in the bloody gut once!

    On intelligence, a man I consider my surrogate father is a very successful man and has retired in his own custom-made home. The reason I have hope for entrepreneurship is his success. And a very dear, personal friend of mine is my intellectual mentor. Don't worry, not political mentor, she hates politics.

    So yes, there are very smart black people. And I've also seen dolts with the hanged pants down back in my school days. So, there are dummies too.
    Sounds like everyone else(every other race), doesn't it?

    I believe in Dr. King's words: Judge not by appearance, but by character. And that's why I'm against affirmative action. It enforces racism by government laws, instead of the right of everyone to compete fairly for jobs and advancement.
     
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    Congratulations! You just explained why - although I'm sure, unintentionally - many conservatives who say "I can't be racist! I support Ben Carson!" or "I like Condi Rice!" can be as virulently and deep seated racist as any Klansman. Sure you aren't Carson-ist or Rice-ist but that whole lumping together thing is another kettle of fish. And EVERY black person knows it. The continuing wonder to black folks is why any of you far right wing folks think you are foolin' anyone. Sure as sh*t ain't foolin' anyone I know. But good luck with that one man, one vote thing with the changing demographic.
     
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    This is true but before they can be considered "intelligent" they might wanna remember who goes on more shooting sprees in America, or more likely to be a serial killer.
     
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    You know what? I give up. You can call me(or others) racist all you like, it gives you a tingle up your leg in your "moral superiority". But in the meantime, we'll evidence areas like Ferguson, and how people want to stay away from those areas. Racist, but we're safe.
     
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    This poll is beyond ridiculous in an attempt to smear Trump voters. Whites support Trump over Hillary by 50-33. This poll does nothing more than reflect that split.

    Reuters should have made that observation when analyzing the data.
     
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    Are you paying for all of us to move there?
     
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    Very true. If you'd like we can rank the various differences attributable to race and tally up their respective deficiencies--this should be fun.

    You can't reason with the left these days. They are fully committed to the anti-white narrative of racism to explain all of the problems. White people are bad guys, we are responsible for all the problems in the black community, and we deserve to pay. Excessive taxation to pay for stupid programs that don't work and the breeding-out of the white population are all good things for these guys.

    Wow, thanks for that tidbit. That is beyond sloppy journalism.

    And they wonder why we think there's liberal bias in the media.
     
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    I thought it was an interesting poll. With all the "white supremacist" stuff they say about Trump voters, I am surprised that the percentage of those who view blacks negatively isn't higher; and I am surprised that the percentage of Clinton voters who viewed blacks unfavorably was so high. The left does proclaim to have the edge in inclusiveness, acceptance, etc. I mean, about a third of Clinton voters can now call themselves racists--at least that is what they would call Trump voters who viewed blacks with less than love and affection.
     
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    You took the what I was saying wrong. I mentioned that I was surprised that about 30% of Clinton voter could be considered racist. That is a lot considering their never-ending rhetoric about equality, and inclusiveness.
     
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    He was trying to reply to Natturner, I believe.
     
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    I look forward to this as well.
     
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    I thought the poll was interesting in that about 30% of Clinton voters even admit to viewing blacks unfavorably. They can now officially call themselves racist. As for my sloppy journalism (I am not a journalist), I have read a few of your posts and threads that were pretty substandard.
     
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    No, no! He wasn't talking about you. He was calling Reuters journalism sloppy.
     
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    This sounds like all the other times when a liberal was losing an argument or an election. If they feel the least bit insecure out comes the race card and ad hominems. In spite of the skewed polls Donald Trump is doing very well and the more he gains the shriller the attacks will become from Hillary and her desperate sycophants.
     
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    I was not referring to you; I was referring to the original source, but it's okay if you don't like my arguments. Out of curiosity, I'd like to know what you find sub-standard about my arguments. I back my arguments with solid sources--I've never been accused of lying or omitting important information. When the threads are speculative, I say as much.

    And yes, by their own definition of racism, even they are racists!
     
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    This is why I left the party: I thought I reserved the right as a human to be able to reasonably object to a person's policies. When the likes of Chris Matthews were calling those who opposed the ACA racist(and then it expanded to just opposing Obama period), I left the party period. I only "registered" as a Democrat back in my home town in Delaware County at the time, for the purpose of city politics. I was hoping to overtake one party and then reform it.

    I was basically going to do what Donald did, long before Donald showed up. Now Donald will make it harder for me, but I won't give up the fight for saving this country from these nutjobs.
     
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    And yet you paint with a broader brush than anybody, when you speak of that "group", those "right wingers".... You're laughable in your own hypocrisy! Lol's
     

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