Wrong. "The Court has also made clear that Congress has the power to investigate when it is “related to, and in furtherance of, a legitimate task of the Congress.” Thus, for example, Congress can investigate where the results of the investigation could lead “to further action on the part of the [Congress] within its constitutional powers.” https://www.theusconstitution.org/blog/congressional-oversight-is-not-presidential-harassment/
Congress oversees the Executive BRANCH not the PRESIDENT who is elected and overseen by the PEOPLE who hold them accountable at the ballot box. If they want to exercise their Constitutional power then have the House vote to start an impeachment so there is due process.
Congress no more oversees an elected President than the President oversees the elected members of Congress. And the fact is the Constitution doesn't even mention oversight AT ALL. They have one avenue, for the President and Vice-President, impeachment.
Wow! You say I am wrong and then repeat almost exactly what I claimed, which was, "They have oversight responsibilities over the executive branch provided it relates to legislation." Getting Trump's tax returns is not oversight of the executive branch, and it has zero legislative connection. The words "legitimate task" does not mean anything congress wants to do. I ask you this: Does the president have the right to get every congressperson's tax return so he can peruse them to find untoward stuff? Does the president have oversight authority over congresspersons?
I recall, when the WB complaint story first broke and then became better understood, thinking the WH was not going to be able to obfuscate the truth like they did with the Mueller report because of the comparatively straight forward nature of the violations of law surrounding the Zelensky call. As your post illustrates, I under estimated the ability of Don and right wing media to confuse and misinform The Following. Unambiguous powers Congress possesses are now thoroughly misunderstood thanks to relentless propaganda and disinformation. There is nothing these guys can't spin.
And nothing in your post here has anything to do with his tax returns being made public. You would need to see his Personal Financial Statement, not tax his returns. I don't understand why some people are finding this so frustrating... do you not think that every possible taxing authority has run his returns through a sieve at least a couple times? NY being one of those that will go after you after you move out of state, just to try and prove you still have 'ties' to the state and therefore your income anywhere is taxable. I get that people don't like Trump, I personally think he is a twit, but that doesn't give you or me a basis to demand something from him that is not required by law.
All president submit their tax returns.. What I said earlier is that Trump brags and he also lies like a dog.. THAT doesn't inspire confidence.
No President has been required to submit their tax returns. It has been a voluntary action. Your or my confidence has nothing to do with demanding something you are not legally entitled to.
Confidential draft IRS memo says tax returns must be given to Congress unless president invokes executive privilege https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...d41834-7b1c-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html A confidential Internal Revenue Service legal memo says tax returns must be given to Congress unless the president takes the rare step of asserting executive privilege, according to a copy of the memo obtained by The Washington Post. The memo contradicts the Trump administration’s justification for denying lawmakers’ request for President Trump’s tax returns, exposing fissures in the executive branch. Trump has refused to turn over his tax returns but has not invoked executive privilege. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has instead denied the returns by arguing there is no legislative purpose for demanding them. But according to the IRS memo, which has not been previously reported, the disclosure of tax returns to the committee “is mandatory, requiring the Secretary to disclose returns, and return information, requested by the tax-writing Chairs.”
If it was confidential, why are you posting about it? Our government has so many leaks it's hard to keep up. Memo. Not law, but a memo. Think on that for a bit.
Making up laws that don't exist is not going to help Trump. Let me know when you are ready for a serious debate
No it's not going to hurt him as you are trying to do. There must be a legitimate legislative purpose for Congress to obtain a citizens tax returns. And even if they did NONE of the information contained in them can be released to the public and anyone who would leak anything in them would face a term in a federal prison. Congress has no right to a citizens private information willy nilly they must have cause and a legitime legislative purpose. Again we don't even hear anything about that anymore.
You should have protested when the law passed. But now it's the law of the land. And the law of the land says that they "shall furnish" the tax returns. Ranting about it and making up non-existent conditions is not going to change the law or make those who broke it less guilty. End of story
And it will go to court on two grounds, Congress actions must have legislative purpose, Congress is not a criminal investigative branch of government nor the IRS which audits tax returns and then there is the unreasonable search and seizure part of the 4th Amendment. Tax returns are protected private documents. The IRS has not charged him with any tax fraud or tax violations. His returns are no business of a partisan House. I thought the left was all about the right to privacy?
I hope you realize that what you are arguing is nonsense beyond belief. The President is the Executive branch! I would never have though I'd have to explain this to an adult. The House doesn't have to vote... crap! The House can initiate impeachment in any way they damn well please. And they don't even have to initiate impeachment. Impeachment is not a power. It's a duty. And to carry out that duty, they oversee the the Presidency. If they weren't able to oversee the Presidency, how would they know when they were required to perform their duty to impeach? That is a direct question. Answer! Maybe you believe that our Founding Fathers thought they would wait to see if the NYT or the WaPo broke the story and then impeach. But I doubt that's what they were thinking.
It can go to court on whatever you want. But there is no basis. It has to serve the purposes to which Congress has a duty. Oversight is a duty. Yes it is! The Constitution gives the House the sole power to impeach. How can they impeach if they don't know what they are impeaching for? Answer!
