Trump Threatens Canada ‘Ruination’ on Autos Amid Nafta Talks

free enterprise is an iconic democratic principle.

I too dosometimes wonder what America would look like today in the absence of its military industrial complex's rise to dominance.

 

That's an odd remark considering the subject of this thread.

The bigger question is what would the world look like.

 

VICTORY!
VICTORY again.
Trump beat again
Look at the bright side it's better than ruination
To those who berated Trump - to YOU and too.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...washington-for-nafta-talks-idUSKCN1LR21E?il=0

Canada ready to allow U.S. dairy ​

access in NAFTA talks: sources​

Sept. 11, '18
OTTAWA/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Canada is ready to offer the United States limited access to the Canadian dairy market as a concession in negotiations to rework the North American Free Trade Agreement, two Canadian sources with direct knowledge of Ottawa’s negotiating strategy said on Tuesday.

Canada’s protected dairy industry is one of three sticking points in NAFTA talks between the two countries, along with a system for settling trade disputes and cultural protections for Canadian media firms.


BRAVO TRUMP




Moi
I don't need no Trumpy Bear when he's my President.

 

Trumpy Bear is even greater than Smokey the Bear

 

I wouldn't consider what most comedians, entertainers and actors do to be art.

 

And no one asked for your opinion on it.

 

Canada might sign an agreement with a modified Chapter 19, but I doubt they'll leave themselves open to the U.S. applying tariffs and other trade impediments as they see fit. There won't be any Canadian cave in on protecting Canadian culture, either.

 

Canada already gave limited access to the EU and TPP nations. BFD.

What we won't get is a deal without Canada protecting its culture and them having some way of enforcing the agreement.

Trump has is any event accelerated Canada exchanging preferred access to their raw materials (second most in the world) for trade deals. We can stand in line for their raw materials behind other countries when we used to be at the head of the line. He also made it far less likely Canada will make the sacrifices necessary to sell us water we'll soon need.

That Trump ...he's a real sharp guy.

 

NO ... Exercise of power and often power abuse!

No, because the ambitions of the US and its own interests in the world since the Spanish-American War have always been too great.
At some point, the US would therefore come by itself with one or the other great power in a conflict.
Before the First World War, the planning of the US Navy in terms of a possible enemy enemy in the future far more on a battle exchange with the British Royal Navy was present, as on a conflict with the then German Empire.
And that you were involved here was not only because of the evil submarine war of the Germans, which also sank many US ships. It was mainly due to the fact that after the collapse of the Russian Empire, Germany and its allies had no two-front war anymore = millions of soldiers free to shift to the West and so the British, French and Italians were on the losing route. But because you gave these 3 countries in total by today's standards credits of 1 Trillion USD and in case of a defeat of the 3 you can forget this money, President Wilson peed in his pants!

And in World War II, it was the very same behavior that Pearl Harbor brought made happened, because Japan was a threat to your, especially economic, interests in Asia in terms of its expansion into China, etc. In imposing sanctions on Japan, Roosevelt gave a crap to the many hundreds of thousands or more of the by the Japanese slaughtered Chinese. In fact, it was purely about endangered US econoimy interests!
And you was in the war in Europe only involved, because the jerk with the funny mustache had declared war on you some days after Pearl Harbour! Without that, you would never have come to Europe!

 

And art is an intellectual pursuit. Some of our greatest social commentators and philosophers were/are comedians and humorists.

 

Weakening chapter 19, won't fix stuff like the US taking us to arbitration FIVE Times on softwood lumber only to lose five times and after each loss, immediately reimposing the tariffs. Course a "play fair/no sore loser" clause might help.

 

I was responding to the other poster labeling what Canadian comedians, entertainers and actors in America do as "art". "Intellectual" art to boot. Jim Carey and Mike Meyers are not intellectual artists. Neither are their American born contemporaries.

 

Canadian comedians, entertainers and actors in America are more than Jim Carey and Mike Meyers. You have Canadians playing in many symphonic orchestra in the USA too, or is classical music not art either? How about Canadian painters and sculptors?

At least spell out what it is that you consider art before dismissing any canadian participation in it.

 

Er, limited concessions means removing the Canadian new (2015) new classification (with subsidized discounted prices) of milk destined to create ultrafiltered products. We hit American producers rather hard with that little maneuver and on the surface is unfair.

I wonder if US milk producer subsidies will also be dropped in this supposed "compromise"?

Why is it that trump supporters are always running ahead of themselves to declare victory? Well I suppose when the leader is a premature adjudicator, the lackies are soon to ape..

 

What a way to snatch defeat from the jaws from victory.
Haven't seen anything that effective since Dukakis blew off the Presidential election.


Raw materials?
Their is 's Polar Partner Russia as a competitor for the same market.


And please, Canada protecting its' culture is just laughable.
Truly. No joke. Witness







Wow! Did I miss the quote was satire? Or even a farce? I am a cuppa coffee short.

 

You mean trump's strategy all along was to replace Canada with Russia as a primary supplier of raw materials? Now that is some genius.

Interesting that you thought all Canadians were white guys tho. Being Canadian isn't about race or religion. Just like being American isn't.

WE continue our relentless covert reverse take-over operations. Soon all your taco bells will be serving maple syrup on their tacos and poutine will become the new national food of America! Resistance is futile.

 

They generally don't identify as "comedians, entertainers and actors"

 

And all of their material is consider "intellectual property". They use their intellects to create their characters, to write their scripts and jokes.

Just because the outputs of their intellectual efforts don't meet your personal criteria for "art", doesn't mean it isn't art nor intellectual.

for example comedy is a fundamental component of what is collectively called "theater arts".

 

What kind? I would think the kind that wanted a better deal for the US, with Canada. Something about the existing trade isn't to trump's liking. He has talked about how the US is getting ripped off with trade deals and trade, and he has thought for years the people who agree to these kind of trade deals are little better than chimps in the gray matter dept. ha ha

Since I agree with trump, on this issue, of course I support whatever he does to work to the goal he has in mind. To fix bad trade deals, from a common sense and business perspective. But I would be the first to agree that a gov't should not act just like a private sector business. But there are some common things involved that is just common sense and in the best interests of more americans than the current trade deals offer. They are bad deals. The worst deals are with those that we run perpetual trade deficits with, IMO. But even other deals can be improved to benefit the US over the long haul. We have given away far too much since the 80s. Time to start taking some of that back. Trump will never go far enough in that direction though. It would take another FDR kinda democrat with support to do that. And we no longer have those traditional democrats in power.

 

Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama would have just given the store.
The Trump difference is VICTORY hurrah


Moi
No Longer 's Bit*ch.
Thank you Trumpy Bear

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Playing the Race Card now.


The images were in response to preserving culture, as if.



You are scrapping the bottom of the barrel so I will take pity and probably give you the last word.
The Race Card, really.

 

They all fit in the artists group, even if you personnaly don't see them as such.

 

Geez, are you ever clueless. Obviously, you know very little about Canada and how Canadians feel about their country.

China had repeatedly tried to get a free trade deal with Canada. They're after the Canadian resources.

 

Any idea how they got that power?

So unlike other countries, like Germany and Russia for example. who only had the interests of other nations at heart.

And Adolf shot himself in the head. You regret the USA helping their fellow democracies, huh?

Perhaps Japan, Germany and Italy should have given some thought to their economic interests also, and also to the value of human life.

The US was already helping Britain before the war began. Perhaps Germans should have laughed at the jerk with the funny moustache rather than attacking their neighbor countries and, in the case of the Jews, their own people. Germans are far and away the most easily propagandized people in the western world and your present enmity towards the United States is just another demonstration of this..

 

Yet I am not alone.