Trump to recognize Jerusalem as Israeli capital

Please elaborate.

 

Actually the President is moving US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Jerusalem won't move!
We should keep in mind that for Israel its capital is Jerusalem, not Tel Aviv.

 

Faith and religion doesn't have anything to do with who was there first. Sounds like its an education and intelligence problem. That which the Arabs lack when it comes to History.

 

Simply a waste of another $100 million dollars. Don’t fix it if it isn’t broken.

 

The average person thinks Trump is in the pocket of the Russians. The truth is he is in the pocket of Israel. Bibi and The Donald work hand-in-hand.

 

Zionists corrupt both parties. Both parties rival with zeal and gusto in licking AIPAC's arse. Any candidate in a Presidential election must make a AIPAC pledge - the sole exception being Bernie Sanders, a jew himself, and look at how he was discarded. It's been the case since the end of the XIXth century, and not just in the US, but it's definitely more apparent there.

There's no party politics in foreign policies in the ME; Now matter the curtains' colours in the WH, the decisions are taken in Tel-Aviv (for now) and Ryahd (recently). The US President does not have any control on the wheel - merely the gas pedal.

I suggest you read the Walt and Mersheimer report on zionist influence in the highest spheres of US power:

http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/IsraelLobby.pdf

 

Peace and stabilty cannot be built on a fantasy that the strong will surrender to the weak, perhaps Trump tries to put reality on the negotiation table before it starts, and if it doesnt - so be it, Trump moves also means we are ready to ignore the Palestinans refussal and proceed with our lives, for 70 years this has gone no where because Muslims ignore reality.

 

Sorry - that makes no sense at all to me.

And who is the strong?

 

Perhaps both simply see the ME for what it is.

 

The King of Saudi Arabia called Trump and asked him NOT to move the US embassy to Jerusalem... He said it was dangerous.

 

We are,
You still get the right to ignore reality so the Muslims dont have to agree.

 

What Trump would gain from moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.....

The third benefit to U.S. interests of moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem addresses a broader policy objective — helping to repair the crisis of confidence among America’s Middle East allies, both Arab and Israeli.

However impressive Obama’s legacy may be on many issues, in the Middle East there is near universal relief among leaders of America’s allies that his term has ended. That is because both Arabs and Israelis believe the Obama administration elevated outreach to America’s adversaries — especially Iran — over fidelity to America’s allies. For Trump, turning a page in the Middle East requires a commitment to restore trust and intimacy between Washington and its regional partners, a strategy he might call “America’s allies first.” Within this context, a decision to fulfill his promise to move the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem would send a message that America’s word is truly its bond. Of course, Arab leaders should not be expected to applaud the embassy relocation. But if the move is explained as part of a strategic realignment of U.S. priorities in the region, targeted toward the “West Jerusalem” territory that Israel has held since its founding, and presented as having no impact on the contested status of holy sites, they would likely understand and not actively oppose the initiative.

In deciding to move the embassy, Trump should make a net assessment that balances advantages and risks. It is a mistake to focus solely on the potential costs, however real and substantial they may be, when the potential benefits are real and substantial, too......snip~

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-embassy-to-jerusalem/?utm_term=.a374452db41e


No.....you were correct about Hillary being the bottom of the barrel.

 

Of course, the Saudi lobby is a relative newcomer in Washington when compared to the zionist one... They may have a few levers here and there, but these will diminish as oil is getting more and more a thing of the past... And I know of no dual Saudi citizens in the governmental machine neither yet.

 

I think it takes quite a strong people to endure what your people endured, and what the Palestinians currently endure. Palestinians are strong in resolve and demographics; you are strong in weapons and money.

So I ask again - who's the strong one?

 

Why are you taking this so personaly ? we didnt get half that existed when the UN decided the Temple mount was only Muslim, y'know its just a statement right ? Israel is and has been in full control over Jerusalem for the past 50 years so nothing changes,

Are you going to be alright ?

 

Hamas will play like the leftness and go out and scream at the Sky. There will be some sniveling, whining, and some tantrums from Arabs. But then they will get over it. Then they will get use to it. Then its back to business as usual.


Hamas plans 'day of rage' in response to Trump's Jerusalem decision......


Terror group Hamas is calling for a “day of rage” Friday, urging Palestinians to protest President Donald Trump’s plan to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital and move the U.S. Embassy there from Tel Aviv.

The group, designated a terrorist organization by the U.S., encouraged Palestinians in an official Arabic statement to send a message “with all available means” to Israel after the upcoming Friday prayers.

It added that making Jerusalem the Israeli capital was crossing a “red line.”

“We call on the people of Palestine to declare ‘rage day’ on Friday against Israel, denying the U.S. plan to move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital,” the statement read.

It added: "The youth and the Palestinian resistance in the West Bank need to respond with all means available to the U.S. decision that harms our Jerusalem. Jerusalem is a red line and the resistance will not allow any desecration of it.”.....snip~

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...in-response-to-trumps-jerusalem-decision.html

 

Looks like a load of gobbledegook to me; An attempt to rationalize the irrational, using bureaucratic expressions that gives the reader a false impression of seriousness.

If there's any interest for America to do such a ham-headed move, surely then it's in the sales of weapons that will certainly ensue, because if it's to gain the Israeli's confidence (so next time they will warn us in time from another 9-11, for exemple), then it won't work, as Israelis overwhelmingly consider Americans as somewhat grotesque but useful goyim nonetheless, for now. You know, a bit like bovines.

And then why do you said that HRC's AIPAC speech was the bottom of the barrel if you basically agree with it?

 

I've had worse...

 

I don't think KSA does dual citizens..

The Russian trolls on the board have been claiming the Saudis WANT the US embassy moved to Jerusalem.

 

No, of course they don't - there's gonna be troubles in the kingdoms if that ever pass. It's quite easy to see.

 

Resolve is shared, demographics was always a threat but reality, again, proves we are doing not so bad at all, we have more than just money and guns, you can accept reality for what it is and stop underestimate us or you can keep making amussing remarks such as Jews control Trump, America and the world - you simply should have changed your basic assumptions if Earth turns to a square by your calculations instead of blaming aliens.

 

I don't deny the power of the Israeli lobby in US, what I think is that we shouldn't invert the order ... there was a Jewish lobby also in Rome, in late Republican age, lobbying on the Roman Senate to obtain money for the works at the Temple in Jerusalem, but the Roman Empire ruled in ME.

Regarding US - Israel relations, it's not that different: the United States need a strategic ally like Israel in that area, because of clear geopolitical interests. This means that there are mutual interests on the table.

 

It would be fine if the influence on the US was moral, peace loving, and constructive, rather than stemming from hubris. It's not, and as we have seen and are seeing, and it's taking us, and the world down a road of unimaginable destruction.

 

I don't think any foreign strongholds are good at their base, no matter how hippie they might be.

 

wiki:

The Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995[1] is a public law of the United States passed by the 104th Congress on October 23, 1995. It was passed for the purposes of initiating and funding the relocation of the Embassy of the United States in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, no later than May 31, 1999, and attempted to withhold 50 percent of the funds appropriated to the State Department specifically for "Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad" as allocated in fiscal year 1999 until the United States Embassy in Jerusalem had officially opened.[2] The act also called for Jerusalem to remain an undivided city and for it to be recognized as the capital of the State of Israel. Israel's declared capital is Jerusalem, but this is not internationally recognized, pending final status talks in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. The United States has withheld recognition of the city as Israel's capital. The proposed law was adopted by the Senate (93–5),[3] and the House (374–37).[4]

Since passage, the law has never been implemented, because of opposition from Presidents Clinton, Bush, Obamaand Trump[5], who view it as a Congressional infringement on the executive branch's constitutional authority over foreign policy; they have consistently claimed the presidential waiver on national security interests.