Trump: Trump did not swear to "support" the constitution!

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Unbelievable. Who IS this Trump?

    His argument is that the presidential oath is to "preserve, protect and defend" the constitution - NOT to "support" the constitution!

    This is his argument against the CO move to have him disqualified from the presidential ballots of the state under the 14th amendment!

    Apparantly, he believes America is a party game.
     
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    Apparently you think that America is a party game where you can pretend that the 14th amendment says what it does not say.

    The list it may exclude is a single sentence long and it does not include the President. It does include Bribed Biden who engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the corrupt FBI to try to overturn the 2016 election and rig the 2020 election, though, in case that makes you feel better.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    some republicans will support him not supporting the Constitution, even defend it
     
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    Yes, and we all know which sub group that would be.
     
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    The end-game of believing that the election was "stolen" is that elections don't work ... it was what Trump wanted, and his cult followers are
    just fine with that.
     
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    We know that the corrupt FBI and CIA rigged the election by lying about Hunter's laptop that details the Biden Bribery business.
     
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    How do YOU KNOW that for a FACT??? Inside track into both the FBI and CIA???? Do tell.
     
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    We covered it as it was being verified, right here on PF. Look it up.
     
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    Sorry, dude. There was no chain of custody on Hunter's laptop at the time - still isn't - any half competent lawyer would get it thrown out of court as
    evidence. The FBI knows that.

    Did the IRS "rig" the election by not releasing Trump's tax returns, so voters could have known about his "questionable" financial claims?
     
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    The FBI has the actual laptop… with documentation of seizing it... They have verified it as authentic… it would not be actual email’s on Hunter’s hard drive that would be unverified, but the verification of the same emails on the receiving parties end. That would stand up in any court room.
    Any copies now have been verified authentic by “experts” by your beloved WaPo, NYT, and CBS….

    We are way past the “Russian disinformation” BS at this point.
     
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    that doesn't change that fact that Russia could have been taking a truth and adding lies to the story back then - as nothing was known back then and nothing really criminal has been found on the laptop in all this time
     
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    So the oath is to defend the constitution…. You want to change the language…. why?

    "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    https://www.usa.gov/inauguration#:~...at I will,Constitution of the United States."
     
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    If you want to pretend to believe the lie that Hunter's Laptop was Russian Disinformation, as the corrupt FBI/CIA claimed to rig the election for Bribed Joe, what's that to me?
     
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    Speaking of Inmate P01355809 the prosecution on the J6 case just filed a motion REQUIRING that his DEFENSE team NOTIFY the court if they intend to rely on the "Advice of Legal Counsel" defense?

    If they decide NOT to use that strategy NOW then it CANNOT be invoked later in the trial OR in any appeal.

    If they DO decide to use the "Advice of Legal Counsel" defense then ALL communications between his legal team and the Traitor-in-Chief MUST be provided during the Discovery phase. This NULLIFIES the Lawyer/Client Privilege defense entirely, which was already shaky because it doesn't cover the commission of CRIMES like the J6 Insurrection.

    Either way this is a lose-lose for Team TraitorsRUs.
     
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    It's Trump who wants the president to be free of duty to support the constitution - because he didn't.
     
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    I'd seen the "advice of legal counsel" question asked of the defense.

    But, I didn't realize how serious it is.

    Thanks!
     
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    Unbelievable nitpicking. Good Grief if you preserve protect and defend you cannot help but support it. What you want add a thesaurus to the Presidential oath?
     
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    I want Trump to be held to the presidential oath as it was when he committed to it.

    His attempts to dodge that responsibility are unconscionable and can not be allowed.

    The oath of office is NOT a word game.
     
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    He did. Would that you and your peers would hold crooked Joe to the same standard.
     
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    Trump wants to be free of the oath in a court case where he is the accused on the grounds that his oath didn't say "support".

    The issue isn't whether he generally followed the oath. It's about whether he did in the case for which he is being tried.
     
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    Are you simply confused or just gas lighting for effect? Both?
     
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    Utterly bogus as well as completely meaningless.
     
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    please show us your ignorance of the presidential oath of office…. And what Trump took an oath to doing…

    the OP is debunked…

    “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    https://www.usa.gov/inauguration#:~...at I will,Constitution of the United States."
     
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    Fake News. You are pretending that 14a Sec 3 applies to the President, and it simply does not. Every officeholder it does apply to is covered in a single sentence, and "PRESIDENT" simply isn't one of the offices.

    It does cover bribed Joe though, as he is a former member of Congress.
     
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    I just wanted to Mark these two posts down so that when there are future examples of liberals and government routinely ignoring the Constitution that you two will go on record that they are wrong for doing that.
     

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