Trump tweets shocking assault on Brzezinski, Scarborough

The housing collapse was due to banks arbitrarily lending to subprime borrowers. Sure, people apply for loans and their earnings
and credit rating and down payment should qualify them or not. Instead, anybody was able to get a mortgage. It was not the fault
of EVERYONE who thought they could get something for nothing. It was the fault of the LENDERS who neglected to do their due diligence. The President's administration allowed these subprime loans, or was not paying attention. The congressional
oversight committee encouraged Freddie and Fannie to accept bundles of them, instead of overseeing them

 

CNN is critical of the man, as is their right. They report and analyze information as it is given to them, and do not 'work hard to insult
the man'. He responds with the slogan "fake " news. What is "fake" about it?

 

"Most of the Trump working class supporters hear what they want to hear. Their mind is made up, so don't confuse them with the facts." ibob

The working class has noted the DP/MSM contempt for free labor.
Workers are paying you back for it in spades.

 

Without the labor vote the DP is finished - no great loss.

 

I agree that banks were as guility as anyone in the housing collapse. I saw an interview with the retired CEO of Washington Mutual which went BK. He had signed a non-disclosure at retiring and felt unbound now. He said he warned the board of WM about a coming collapse. The response he got was "... but we make so much money from writing these loans...". They were short-sighted.

That being said, borrowers do have to carry their share of the blame. They were convinced this was a money tree.

Several times I met people who bought a house they could not afford with an two-year adjustable rate and nothing down. They assumed the market would rise in two years and they would make a profit on a quick sale.

My nephew was in the Coast Guard Academy at the time. They were advised to buy a house during each new assignment. I ten tears they would each have five homes to rent. You can guess what happened.

This train started during the Clinton years. It continued through the Bush years. He and John McCain made public warnings about it in 2005-2006. I remember the warnings.

Congress contributed its share to the disaster.

On the last day of the 2000 session, they unanimously approved credit default swaps to insure large investors against loss. It was over-sold on Wall Street by ten times the value of the selling companies. When the crunch hit, they were finished overnite.

No one person was responsible for the crash. I cetainly don't blame Clinton, or Bush alone. Over years, it started out slow, built momentum that no one wanted to stop until it hit the wall.

 

The lenders were responsible. People believed that they could afford to buy a house, and were not refused by lenders when they
did not qualify.

 

There is no contempt for labor that I know of in the DP or the RP, and I spent 30 years in business as a Republican.

 

Let's understand that I am not a "leftist". My view was formed by the asinine responses that I receive from my posts, unfounded
accusations of "fake" news, uninformed responses, etc. This is only an observation and not a criticism. It is what it is.

 

In Columbia? Wow, they must have access to events that mainstream America does not. Frankly, my view is that this revelation is a whole different discussion.

 

My view is that "fake" news is the criticism that Trump is exposed to due to his policies. The news isn't "fake". Rather it is another
take on Trumpian politics by the FREE press. When he attempts to suppress the press with his antics, we have the beginnings
of a dictatorship.

 

That isn't my version of acting Presidential. Take your meds next time before posting. I didn't vote for Bill Clinton....twice. I'm a registered Republican. Now get back to worshipping President Trump, the liberal reality TV star you think is going to be on Mount Rushmore. He needs your support and stroking.

 

What in the name of all that's good and holy does that have to do with my post? If you approve of Bill Clinton's behavior and use it to justify Trump's then don't project it on me.

 

Yes, tell Trump to stop the simpering and whining. It's unseemly behavior for a President.

 

Why does it upset you so much that 3 entertainers criticize the reality TV star in the Oval Office?

 

Your post:

The original post of the thread:

I'm merely offering a reminder that certain presidents have far, far worse...

 

What was it that confused you about my post? If you can remind me of a time that any other modern President interrupted his own discussion with another country's leader because he couldn't take his eyes off a pretty woman, please do so. Until then, my statement was correct. Nobody does that.

And again, regarding Bill Clinton, if you believe his actions were excusable, don't project that on me. I didn't think they were excusable. I didn't vote for Clinton - twice, in fact - and found his behavior to be disgusting. I'm not a hypocrite. I don't condemn Clinton for what he did in private and then excuse Trump for what he does while publicly playing "President of the United States".

 

Thus proving once again that the Republican establishment, like the Democrat establishment is indifferent or blind to the suffering of the working class.

“An alternative measure of joblessness that takes into account discouraged workers and the underemployed fell to 8.4 percent, its lowest reading since November 2007. The level of Americans counted as not in the labor force swelled to just below 95 million.” CNBC, May nonfarm payrolls total 138,000 vs 185,000 expected, BY Jeff Cox, 6/2/17.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/02/nonfarm-payrolls-may-2017.html

Hence Trump.

 

The evidence of Fake News is now very extensive and well documented. Those who deny what is now obvious could be accurately described as "asinine" and "uninformed".

“Liberals desperate to believe that the right conspiracy will take down Donald Trump promote their own purveyors of fake news,” she wrote.”

THE ATLANTIC, How the Left Lost Its Mind, Polemicists, conspiracists, and outright fabulists are feeding an alternative media landscape—where the implausibility of a claim is no bar to its acceptance. MCKAY COPPINS JUL 2, 2017.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/liberal-fever-swamps/530736/

The serious informed left is now admitting that their allies among the crazy uninformed left, whether Republican, Democrat, Communist, vegan or candlestick maker, are addicted to Fake News.

 

Then you are mistaken. The fact that The leaders of the DP, The Clintons, were financially involved in the use of military force to stop union organizing, crush a strike, and murder workers is very relevant to any discussion of the DP's relationship with the working class.

The fact that someone who claims to be a member in good standing of the Republican establishment is especially revealing - and disturbing.

Of course, the bipartisan unity of the entrenched corrupt American political class has became an open secret as soon as Trump announced his candidacy.

 

Nonsense. In Fact the MSM is firing its fact checkers.

“In fact, we feel more respected by our readers than we do by you. We are living in a strange time when routine copy-editing duties such as fact checking, reviewing sources, correcting misleading or inaccurate information, clarifying language and, yes, fixing spelling and grammar mistakes in news covfefe are suddenly matters of public discourse. As those in power declare war against the news media, as deliberately false or lackadaisical reportage finds its way into social media feeds, readers are flocking to our defense. They are sending us pizza. And they are signing up for Times subscriptions in record numbers because they understand that we go to great lengths to ensure quality and, most important, truth.” DEADLINE, New York Times Editors Decry “Humiliating Process” Of Layoffs, By Jeremy Gerard, June 28, 2017.

The now fully exposed corrupt political class in America has nothing but contempt for the truth.

 

"Fake" news is not extensive and well documented. Examples of this, other the firing of those 2 reporters from CNN, which they did as soon as they were made aware? What do you call Republicans who know that the news is not fake--like me? Criticizing and exposing Trump for what he is ain't "fake' news". He is no different now than he was before he got elected. He has not changed.
Mayor Bloomberg of New York has said that they traveled in the same business circles, and his fellow millionaires knew him to
be a con man, among other things. Warren Buffet also said as much and disclosed that Trump went bankrupt 7 (seven) times.
Are these two men "asinine and uninformed"? There are articles and books written, before he ran for office, about the real Trump. You can read all about him.What is he doing for the working and middle class that got him elected? We know what he is doing for the wealthy with health care and taxes. Are you aware, or are you blindly following him, because he talks your language? Belittling a disabled person, urging a supporter to punch a protester in the face, bragging about grabbing women by the crotch, openly enjoying the story that he could shoot someone and still maintain his followers, verbally attacking immigrants whose son gave his life for this country, tweeting "fake" news about reporters more than once, and let's not forget that silly video of our President--All "Fake," right? Is this ok with you? He has said, having criticized his predecessor, that he too may add 2 trillion dollars to the deficit after that wall and infrastructure repairs. More like 5 trillion. It is what it is. You are in denial.

 

Fake News is what the corrupt political class is all about. It is the norm, and it is designed to distract attention from the ugly truth of the systemic corruption of the entrenched political class that now runs America from Washington.

“Media reports on government actions, whether debates, legislation, or regulation, almost always present them in terms of pure policy. New laws are for a specific purpose, perhaps even a noble one. But what if that isn't the real purpose of the exercise? What if politics is largely about fund-raising and moneymaking? The commercial motives of the Permanent Political Class in acting or not acting are rarely questioned and virtually never fully understood.” EXTORTION, "How Politicians Extract Your money, BuyVotes, And Line Their Own Pockets, Peter Schweizer, HMO, NY, NY, 2013. p. 2, 3.

The MSM is The Big Lie.

 

What does this have to do with contempt? Right as we speak, auto manufacturers are laying off thousands of workers, Carrier
is laying off 600 workers and the union chief has called Trump a liar, Boeing is laying off 1300 workers, Ford (promising Trump that
they would not build a factory in Mexico) is building in China. Jobs are not going to return with "hence" Trump, my friend.
Actually, there is a very good chance (if one learns from history) that we will be heading for another severe recession, due to his
cancelling both good and bad regulations at an alarming rate, among other things. And the jobs will continue to dissipate. Why doesn't Trump decrease taxes for the wealthy to 20% rather than to 15%, and increase the tax deduction for the working and middle class
to $50,000, which will certainly help their bottom line? Because he has, and has always had, contempt for the workers of our country.
He speaks of American workers and using American steel, and yet he uses undocumented immigrants and Japanese steel to build his buildings. Contempt for American workers, yes? And you are buying into his rhetoric.

 

And you believe that Trump, with all his baggage, is going to change this? He is the epitome of the politics that you are exposing.

 

Focus. The Clintons, the leaders of the DP are financially connected to the use of deadly military force to crush the working class that dared to organize and strike.

This is not a subtle point.