Trump used $258,000 from his charity to settle legal problems

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  1. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He wasn't fined for flying a flag.
     
  2. Danneskjold

    Danneskjold Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't fly a flag with out a pole to fly it on. It was a 'uge flag, and required a 'uge pole.
     
  3. YouLie

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    If it were illegal, I'm sure his lawyers wouldn't have let him do it. They're checks, not cash. It's not like he was trying to hide it. I honestly don't know the law regarding the owner or trustee of a charity's personal expenditures.
     
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    That's what I'm saying he pays teams of people to keep him from being stupid.
     
  5. YouLie

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    Not that stupid can't still happen, but it seems unlikely. It's the perception of this that matters anyway. Since it's another lead balloon floated by the Donna Braziles and David Corns of the world, and it hasn't hurt him at all, I doubt we'll get much explaining from him.
     
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    No. It isn't. Especially when that charity is funded by OTHER PEOPLE. That's called a breach of fiduciary duty. Say I form a trust for the purpose of helping kids with cancer. When donors give money to that trust, I can't just use those funds to pay off my own obligations. I kid you not--literally every state has laws against that.

    I'm aware it is a settlement. But that doesn't make a difference. It was a legal obligation that had nothing to do with the purpose of the Trust or why people donated to it.
     
  7. Windigo

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    Doesn't matter who funds it. Did the money go to charity yes of no?
     
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    Why do you think that matters? Do you not realize that if Trump himself (or his company) had paid the $100,000 out of his (or its) own pocket, then the Trump foundation would still have that $100,000, and the other charity would have $100,000 more. It's not a wash. If all charity is the same, then charity has $100,000 less than it would have if the money had come from Trump or his organization.
     
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    I don't think past behavior allows you to use Trump and good faith in the same sentence
     
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    Yes it does.. Trump is in breach of Federal Campaign Laws.

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    Trump is also charging the government for Secret Service staying in his Trump hotels and to ride on TAG airlines... something in excess of $6 million.
     
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    Lol...That's some intense spit polishing of Trump's latest turd.
     
  12. Danneskjold

    Danneskjold Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm pretty sure trump has never been charged with a crime. You know, that tired old clinton argument?
     
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    What do you think being charged with a crime has to do with acting in good faith. Let's see he tried to rip the vets off for four million, he uses charitable deductions for personal debt. Trump University was a total scam. He has defrauded small contractors and investors uncountable times. His record of telling the truth is about 19% according to Polifact. He won't release his income tax records. He lied about opposing the Iraq invasion and the Libya action. He lied about Clinton starting the birther nonsense. Etc,etc, etc ad infinitum.
     
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    No he is not. If a 501C3 makes a campaign contribution thry pay a 10% excise tax. If they get to the point where political activity is too much, which is a pure judgment call by the IRS, then they can have their 501C3 status revoked. They paid the excise tax on a single donation that was a clerical error.
     
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    So again thr money went up charity. You would only have a point if the company had been fined. It's a settlement so it's perfectly legal.
     
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    The only reason why your ilk believes this is a scandal is because it is OBVIOUSLY clear you have no idea that being sued is absolutely normal in any successful business or charity (in this case)...

    What you don't think charities aren't sued?

    The foundation is it's own entity hence it pays for its own legal bills....

    If it matters we do need tort reform...
     
  17. Danneskjold

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    You can't sit here and call trump a liar and a theif in defence of Clinton. She can either stand on her own or she can't. I have not seen any reason to vote for clinton other then her wanting to help small portions of the population, they are talking points, and most people don't really care. Clinton's foreign policy is her biggest weakness. I have yet to hear a decent explanation of how continuing down the same course will benefit any of us. Call trump a liar all you want. Clinton is too. If you have something good to say about clinton that has actually benefited America as a whole I'd love to hear it.
     
  18. truth and justice

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    You would have a point if the settlement was between the charity and the city, but is wasn't. It was between trump's club and the city

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    You clearly have no ides that the charity was not being sued! Trump's club was
     
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    "Your ilk" - lol

    As I understand it:
    Trump profits from his golf course.
    Said course was fined, and agreed to settle by making a donation to a certain charity.
    Trump redirects moneys from his charity (to which he donates nothing) to the first one.
    That money was not his to spend as he pleases.
    Trump got caught with his pants down, you rush in to cover his arse.

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    I would love to see the documents because I don't believe you and there is absolutely ZERO reason why I should....

    I would find it difficult to believe Trump would knowingly use charity funds for his own legal problems...... When you're worth billions 250k is nothing....

    The Clinton foundation though? that's been proven to be a slush fund for Hillary and Bill......
     
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    You do realize the progressives have lost absolutely all credibility???

    You know how I know what you're saying isn't true at all? because if the media that absolutely HATES TRUMP had any evidence it would be front page news until this election is over - THAT'S WHY.
     
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    The case was over the height of a flag pole on one of the buildings on Trump's club. This club has nothing to do with the charity.
     
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    Trump's club is a subsidiary of the Trump Organization as is the foundation.
     
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    And where is this information coming from? oh yeah, communist sites such as Thinkprogress or opinion editorials in the Chicago Tribune - you know the same people that are still trying to figure out ways they can put guys like me in baskets in an attempt to defend Hillary ....
     
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    If trump is the owner of the foundation, and is donating his own money to the foundation, would it still be considered self dealing? If you were fined could a charity pay off your fines for you? Could they pay off a debt you owe?
     

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