Trump Withholds $255 Million in Aid To Pakistan

Trump needs to be careful how he handles Pakistan as China has been following the US around and offering infrastructure improvements to countries where the US is destroying them. Chinese influence and foreign policy is brilliant when compared to that of the US.

 

Where is the prove that the Pakistani government was hiding Bin Laden?

 

Where’s the proof that Obama killed him?

 

We should kill the entire foreign aid program.

The USA cannot afford it.

Back in the 1940's we could afford it but not anymore.

 

Well I think this president we have is one who will take a hard look at foreign aid. And in those cases where it is misbegotten and ill-advised, such as with Pakistan, he'll put a stop to it.

 

I'm shocked, why would the U.S. give Pakistan money in the first place?

33 billion to the Gypsies, are you kidding me?

Wait, I forgot - it was a liberal policy.

 

The one good think about Trump is that he does think (when he stops to think at all) outside the box.

Getting rid of all foreign aid would be thinking way outside the box.

The USA has been bribing the other nations of the world with its foreign aid since WW2.

 

No, can you quote me saying that?

 

And Israel, don’t forget Israel.

 

Here's your post.

"There is plenty of debate over whether Glaspie’s tepid response to Hussein that left him with the impression that the US was indifferent to any military action he might take was her own inadequacy or actual State Department position. But here is a scholarly piece on the subject from a member of the CFR".

You said 'there is plenty of debate' and I responded "So giving a 'tepid response' to a national leader means they have US permission to invade their neighbors?" which would be one side of the debate. Correct?

Why did you find it necessary to mention this "debate". Do you agree that it's a foolish argument to make?

 

You'll have no worries there. The only Democracy in the Middle East will continue to have US support.

 

Wrong, it was US policy.

 

There’s no guarantees.

 

The “debate” was over whether or not the US gave a sufficiently strong rebuke over Iraq’s troops being amassed on kuwaits border. My assertion is that they didn’t, not that a green light was thrown up, just no red light. Glaspie said to Saddam Hussein as we’ve told you from the 1960’s, we have no position on Iraq visa vie Kuwait. IOW, an ambiguous response.

 

Calling it an "ambiguous" response or a "tepid" response really doesn't make much difference. In either case this doesn't give anyone an invitation to invade their neighbors, which makes any 'debate' on the subject rather silly and of no importance at all.

If Leftists are going to blame Americans for neighbors invading neighbors, that it is Americans who give the green light as to who may be invaded, then they continue to remain absolutely hopeless.

I really don't see why you mentioned it all, unless it was your way of pointing out how very foolish this 'debate' actually is.

 

You keep asserting language that I haven’t used. I’ve never defined the State Departments failure to issue the necessary language of a firm position as an invitation or green light for an Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. That’s your doing. The essays written about this by the senior fellows at the CFR that I posted long ago, you clearly haven’t read, and don’t intend to, so you’ll never know why scholars on the topic of USFP have criticized the State Departments handling of Iraq, shrug.

 

Of course lets remember than what you call 'their own swill' is US swill. That is what has ****ed up Pakistan as most places. Now up to the 80's US aid to Pakistan was primarily for civilian purposes but with the US getting involved in Wars in the region in the 80's this changed to mainly military.

https://www.dawn.com/news/695692

This also goes with what I said in this post
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...aid-to-pakistan.522616/page-2#post-1068477590

Some of you appear to believe that the US is this really benevolent country which has been giving to Pakistan while naughty Pakistan has not been doing what it should do.

In reality the US has been using Pakistan and destroying it's democracy for it's own end creating the very 'swill' you want to leave it in. That is the US has got what it wanted from Pakistan. Now it no longer has any use of it, it can leave it to die.

https://www.dawn.com/news/695692

That article points out that that Pakistani ex pats give more to Pakistan than the US and they do not work to remove Democratic institutions and replace them with Dictators. It also points out that the money the US gave them in one year, 2010 amounted to $10.3 peer person. I think they can probably survive without your help which is so destructive to them. The money the US has given to Pakistan has been well short of the cost Pakistan has had to bear due to the US wars. Pakistan has also lost 36,000 people due to the US's wars since 2001.

I think it is so sad the way the people of the US are so unaware of the harm they cause and just so so arrogant wrongly imagining they are so benevolent. If there were justice Pakistan should sue the US.

https://www.dawn.com/news/695692

The article also points out that with development aid most of that finds it's way back to the US and further that a great deal of aid promised simply does not arrive. This article goes back to 2013. Obviously the harm the US has done to the country is greater by now, the situation a little different but they believe what will be best for Pakistan is to no longer receive US aid which is so destructive.

https://www.dawn.com/news/695692


Wake up Americans, give up your arrogance and start taking responsibility for what your country does in your name..

 

So then you agree that we should stop supporting them.

 

You have not been supporting them. You have harmed them. You have been using them something which has cost them both financially and in the lives of their people. Your impositions on them has destroyed their democracy making them have to live under dictators and totally destroying their society.

 

To your last point, many of us are trying.

 

If Pakistan only exists because of US aid then I see no reason why it should continue to exist. They've had since 1947 to get it all together.

 

You clearly did not read any of what I wrote but your desire for there to be no Pakistan is noted.

 

Note all you want, it is of no importance to me, but it was your statement I was referring to. Do you want to retract or reword it?

 

Silliness 255 million is a very small amount of money in comparison to the Trillion wasted in Afghanistan.
Alienating Pakistan = Advantage Taliban such that our spending will have even less impact (if that were possible).

 

It remains that

had absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Absolutely nothing. I suggest you actually read post 92 and then you will know that. Otherwise you are just wasting time saying untrue things about me.