Trump's Economic Proposals Are Incoherent

For example: Trump says he is going to fight inflation but at the same time he is going to levy tariffs on Chinese goods which will make our inflation worse. Listen, Pause, and Reflect on Professor Richard Wolff's sagacious commentary on current U.S. politics.

 

How much do illegals in the USA cost the tax payers
how much will the economy be bolstered by focusing on exploiting domestic energy supplies

 

Tariffs are a long-used tactic to supporting in-county competitors by making in-country producers more competitive.

 

Joebotomy maintained many Trump tariffs

 

He is literally all over the place with his comments, which is typical for someone who is trying to something to please everyone. Yes, his economic policies are guaranteed to create inflation, and he swears he WILL put massive tariffs in place. And at the same time he says inflation "is out of control", and he'll fix it, when inflation actually near normal levels.

Nearly all economists predict inflation and mortgage rates will rise. Morgan Stanley is predicting an economic collapse in 2026. Others are predicting 40-50% decline in S&P 500. Frankly I don't think Trump gives a rip, and it might even be the goal of his team of billionaires who would benefit massively from such crash.

They are a long used tactic for government to interfere in free market economy and control of prices.

 

Just watch what Trump does then maybe you Doubting Thomases will understand.

 

That is exactly the only way to interpret Trump: wait and see what he actually does. Because what he has SAID he will do is contradictory. It's impossible to control inflation and impose tariffs on all imports at the same time. And there are many things he has said in which the answer he gave to one group would negate what he said to a different group.

That's what demagogues do. And when the voters of a nation are uninformed, demagoguery wins elections.

Once we believed that it was concepts like conservativism, or the morals of the candidates... but no.... Demagoguery is the most effective tactic.

 

I see MSNBC showing (seemingly nonstop) clips of Trump saying he is going to raise tariffs by 200,300,400, 500% etc. and then cutting away to clutch their pearls while they tell us just how much this will raise prices on the US consumer.

The problem is, they are showing clips of him discussing bad trade deals/practices from China and he is threatening to raise corresponding tariffs by whatever amount it takes to get them to reverse their unfair trade practices. Taken out of context, serves to mislead and give people the impression that he is talking about raising tariffs to truly unsustainable levels.

This is being dishonest and they know this full well. These huge numbers are being threatened as a negotiation tactic, not as a guide to how tariffs will actually be used. What they and you say about tariffs raising prices is true in the generic, but the reality here is those types of numbers are not what is truly going to happen.

As usual, the panic and pearl clutching from the usual suspects is little more than a slight of hand to create fear amongst the fearful.

We are not headed toward massive additional inflation due to tariffs. The sky is not falling.

In truth, we are probably headed toward more balanced trade between the two countries. Oh the horror!

 

And Biden didn't? or Obama? Your blind hero worship of any one who even marginally preaches some LW hoopla.

 

Correct! They DIDN'T try to become dictators.

That's what defines fascism.

 

There are no domestic competitors for most of the products that we get from China.

 

Probably true, which is why carefully designed tariffs could benefit our economy. Trump tends to exaggerate a lot and I think more reasonable targeted tariffs may be forth coming. Or we can just let China eat our lunch.

 

Are you living on this planet? "Fundamentally change America" sound familiar? State governors (dems, of course) dictating wages and conditions for fast food restaurants, or passing laws to curtail gig economies?

 

That's right.
Along with 72 MILLION other Americans who have watched a decade of Russian collusion propaganda, flat out lies from liberal government officials claiming Russian misinformation to influence a national election, the sanctioned theft of 600 acres of prime San Francisco real estate and the arrogance of hiding evidence gathered at tax payer expense to smear a president.
From a corrupt, arrogant, hypocritical liberal political party that lost its moral compass decades ago.

 

Not fascism.

 

I think MORE than 72 million Americans watched the Russian propaganda that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to create. 92 instances in the Mueller Report . The last number I saw I believe was over 140 instances of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Putin regime found after Mueller retired.

In any case... I don't know what point you're trying to make by bringing up MORE immoral actions associated to Trump. And this has nothing to do with Trump's demagoguery on the economy (the topid of this thread). So it's clearly an attempt on your part to derail the thread. I'm not helping you...

 

Sure is; government dictating markets and prices is a prime fascist tenant.

 

Maybe his economic proposals are all a part of an agenda to re-industrialize the US, and not an agenda to keep poor people poor indefinitely. We really need a lot more blue-collar straight out of high school jobs to create a higher, reliable economic floor in communities like textiles, furniture, and the like used to do before Clinton sold them out from under smaller communities.

 

Trump's Economic Proposals Are Incoherent

duh!

 

So nixon was a fascist?

 

Since you drank the koolaid long ago there is no expectation that you want to hear the truth.
But for anyone who cares, we know that the steele dossier was in fact a paid for by the DNC pack of lies.
As was the "intelligence" communities claim that hunters laptop was a fake when they KNEW it was real.
And now the babble about Trumps economic platform is just more of the same;
Get trump no matter what it takes.
Even assasination.

 

Actually, it was REPUBLICANS who initially hired Steele. Specifically The Washington Free Beacon. But it makes no difference who paid for it. What's important is the fact that everything in the dossier that CAN be verified HAS been verified. IOW, the only reason parts of it have not been confirmed is that we have no way of confirming them. Putin probably could. But he just holds the information as a bargaining chip against Trump.

However, golden showers or not, there is ample evidence that confirms the majority of the most egregious claims. An interesting subject, but off-topic here so I can't go into more detail. There are many threads about this. And, if you had any REAL arguments ("Mueller lied"-type claims are not serious arguments) you would make them in one of those. But you don't... so you won't... Thanks anyway for remind us AGAIN the kind of creep you helped send to the WH.

Your attempt to derail this thread is evidence that MAGAs are starting to understand that Trump's economic proposals are, as the title suggests, incoherent.

 

Only when done as part of a strategy to establish a dictatorship. Like, for example, Trump announcing EV policies that benefit Tesla by hurting EV startups. If that is not the purpose, then it's something else... which could be good or could be bad. But not fascism. Bottom line: ANYTHING can be "fascism". But only IF it's done with the end purpose of establishing a dictatorship. If it's done for that purpose, even handing out free checks to everybody would be fascism.

And this is precisely the reason why Trump's economic policies are incoherent. Because he leaves himself the door open to carry out ANY measure that promotes authoritarianism. But will simply ignore any that doesn't. Not being in power, he doesn't know which ones will help and wich will hurt. So he just blurts out all of them....

 

Like tariffs are a new thing..


Current tariffs under joetato

Such hypocrisy