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Trump's Economy Still Unable to Rise above 3% Growth

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  1. rahl

    rahl Banned

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    I’ve given it to you already. Are you under the mistaken impression that I have an obligation to repeatedly prove the same arguments are false, just because you keep repeating your debunked argument?
     
    rahl, Jul 18, 2018
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    You know of course that it’s already been sourced.
     
    rahl, Jul 18, 2018
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    Unsupported nonsense again.
     
    AFM, Jul 18, 2018
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  4. rahl

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    I’m sorry you prefer to detach yourself from reality, but reality remains none the less
     
    rahl, Jul 18, 2018
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    You presented nothing.
     
    AFM, Jul 18, 2018
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  6. rahl

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    You know this is a lie.
     
    rahl, Jul 18, 2018
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  7. danielpalos

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    lol. yes, there is. there is no unemployment under Capitalism only underpayment.
     
    danielpalos, Jul 18, 2018
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    Sure it has. But of course you have nothing.
     
    AFM, Jul 18, 2018
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    And now accusations from the souceless one.
     
    AFM, Jul 18, 2018
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  10. AFM

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    And the source for that is ....
     
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  11. danielpalos

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    Seattle and San Francisco; why plagiarize when we can, "Eureka"?
     
    danielpalos, Jul 18, 2018
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    My list is politically possible if we get rid of the filibuster rule. But everything your guys have tried have failed. Because like it or not half of all presidents are democrats and will just blow away the tax cuts and add more spending on top of the Republican spending. One thing Republicans can do is hold to principle. Never vote for spending increases that don't cut other spending. Never vote for anything that increases the debt. These should be principles that if all Republicans stuck to, democrats couldn't budge because of the senate filibuster rule. Instead Republicans vote to increase spending all the time and now increase debt just as much as democrats. Maybe Republicans aren't winning the fight for fiscal responsibility because they don't follow or believe in it themselves.

    If you actually look at supply side economic theories they stress lower government spending and less debt. These are principles you apparently believe aren't politically viable and not worth fighting for and you apparently are fine with more spending and more debt. I am the real supply sider not you.
     
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    Where is the causation ?? There is none.
     
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    Oh please. Acknowledging what and what is not politically possible is not advocating more spending and more debt.
     
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    Yep. :)
     
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    Yeah, the faux supply siders claim victory with tax cuts when in reality money was poured into the economy using debt.
    I don't think you can get rid of the filibuster without producing a ping pong effect.
    But I do think healthcare could be fixed saving a trillion a year.
     
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    And yet Clinton’s second term supply side policies produced economic growth and budget surplus thanks to reduced military spending and sharply higher cap gains tax revenues after the cap gains tax rate was reduced by ~ 1/3. Clinton’s chief economic advisor Joe Stiglitz correctly labeled these policies as supply side economics.
     
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    Which regulations ? It was government who SAVED the economy in the depression with the New Deal.

    And “Obamanomics prevented a recovery”, yet you conveniently leave out what caused the crash in the first place.
     
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    STOP, you’ve been shown how they used accounting BS to achieve that number WHICH WAS CREATED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION.

    You should now be able to explain to us all how they accounted for the Alternative Minimum Tax in their budget and “deficit” numbers. Also you should be able to easily explain the Supllimental spending bills......go ahead, we’ll wait....

    Your “pitifully simple dismisal” is just that. Your being simple.

    And please explain what caused the 10% unemployment..........oh wait...lemme guess.....”THE CRA”.......
     
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    How did the New Deal save the economy in the Depression.

    What in your mind caused the crash ??

    And changing the quote of a poster is dishonest. - “Obamanomics prevented a recovery”
     
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    Obama guaranteed that the stimulus would hold unemployment under 8%.
     
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    Your inability to refute the facts noted again.
     
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    Refute the fact the Democrats took back the congress January 2007.
     
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    lol. are you new here? A higher minimum wage is the Capital causation. there is no unemployment under Capitalism, only underpayment.
     
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    Keynesian economics brought us into the First World.
     
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