Truth about COVID finally emerges

Ya, i did.

Nothing they "lied" about, caused anyone harm.

Telling us to distance and mask up was the right thing to do at the time. It will have ALWAYS been the right thing to do at the time, and it will still be the right thing to do the next time we are dealing with a respiratory virus.

 

He could have been honest about the threat, not tried to sabotage testing, etc.

 

You cherry picked the first statement to make a point. That's not reading the article with full comprehension.

 

It's funny how you guys can't actually point to anything that the Jan 6 committee "lied" about. You keep making that claim, but you have no specifics.

 

I read the whole article.

Not a single thing in it can correctly be called a "lie".

 

Cloth masks designed for keeping bacteria from causing infections during surgery are effective in stopping the spread of a flu caused by a tiny virus that masks can't block.
Masking up children will save them from the threat (that never existed) of deadly complications.
Shooting up healthy young people with an experimental vaccine will save them with little risk of complications.
Natural immunity is a conspiracy theory.
The US stopped funding gain-of-function research after FY 2014.

We shouldn't let people who have never been right about anything, ever shape our beliefs.

 

A mask reduces the amount of virus that passes through, regardless of how small individual virus particles pass through.

Masking was a good idea the whole time.

I never heard anyone say that natural immunity was non existent.

 

Well then you proved my point. Thanks and enjoy the rest of your day.

 

That's not how masks work. Viruses aren't just flying around individually. They are in droplets. Which are bigger than viruses. Yes, masks help stunt the spread of viruses for this reason. Children (some of whom have had deadly complications) can also be infected and spread the virus to people who have worse complications. You seem to be taking your ques from people who have never been right about anything. Anti-vaxxers are literally taking their info from people who don't understand that viruses are bigger than molecules. Literally.

 

How did he sabotage testing? Is this more misinformation?

 

You said they lied. You have admitted you have no reason to make that claim. Congrats.

 

He literally, repeatedly discouraged testing and claimed that there was "too much" testing. That's the real misinformation . . . which you appear to be defending.

 

Are we done with masks? Three experts review the latest findings
https://usa.inquirer.net/123803/are-we-done-with...
Web20 hours ago · A new study finds masks do little to prevent the spread of viruses like the flu and Covid

I concur with the above. Masks didn't keep me from coming down with a wicked case of Covid bronchitis.

 

He is. Your emoji is no replacement for the fact that he's one of the most cited epidemiologists in the world. He's saved more lives than you can ever hope to.

 

Didn't Dr. Faucet concur with these scientists before he didn't?

 

Speaking of red herrings, that's how I see the Lab Leak Theory.

Because of abundant solid evidence developed by David E. Martin, Mikki Willis and a few others showing that the entire **** show was planned years in advance, the word "leak" (as in accidental) cannot apply. It was no accident, it was deliberate. Event 201 at Johns Hopkins School of Public Health shows that. Television announcers all around the world were reading from the same script in tiny detail. It was planned, not spontaneous.

Yes, the virus itself (presuming that it actually exists) was engineered with US tax dollars and with the cooperation of of Ralph Baric at Chapel Hill AND the Wuhan lab, but the release was deliberate.

Today's controversy is simply a distraction meant to show it was somehow accidental.

The Fauci COVID 19 Dossier : Dr. David Martin : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

 

Fauci couldn't keep his talking points straight probably because there's not a tv camera he didn't like.
Look at all his flip-flops.

Here are Fauci's biggest flip-flops and backtracks amid the coronavirus pandemic | Washington Examiner
Re: Masks as sourced above:
He was against them before he suddenly became for them.

 

Who believes the government anyway.
The point is to have an avenue for compensation for following their guidelines when they are wrong.

If you truly felt it was something serious, would you leave quarantine even if they gave a sketchy all is clear?

This isn't a dictatorship remember.

 

You can tell when a socialist loses an argument. They immediately begin name calling.
People who are at risk are candidates for vaccines and should avoid crowds in which high concentrations of the virus might exist ,,,, like the 2020 super spreader International Women's Day festivities in Madrid and the super spreader Mardi Gras that same year. Subjecting healthy people to a vaccine that puts them at risk of myocarditis and have likely spiked the occurrences of other heart problems is no more the solution than the socialist policy of dumping COVID positive people on nursing home inmates.

 

You say that no one is suggesting that the lab theory cannot be discussed? Huh? Are you not aware that social media put a block on that story for the first couple years of the pandemic? That is precisely what I am arguing against in the conversation of mine that YOU have jumped into.

As far as the rest of your reply...I am not suggesting anyone be put in jail. Please stop putting an argument into my mouth and then proceeding to argue against YOUR words that YOU just falsely inserted into MY mouth.

I realize that the argument you just put into my mouth (strawman), is FAR easier to argue against, but that is not how this works.

My point stands, and you have said nothing to refute that point. Of course logic would tell you that the lab is the most likely source of this outbreak. All you have done is refute the point you are trying desperately to put into my mouth.

Earlier in this conversation, I said something to the effect that the odds of the epicenter of the normally bat based virus jumping to humans in the same place where there is a lab that experiments by modifying bat viruses into a human virus would be astronomical. Your response was to say that I do not understand statistics. I did happen to take two statistics in college. If memory serves me correctly, I got a 3.0, in one, and a 3.5 in the other. This is not to say that I am an expert in statistics by any means ( in fact I hated the class), but it does indicate that I have at least a reasonable elementary grasp of the topic which is a better grasp than most.

With that in mind, and not going too far into the weeds, we can look at the reality that the epicenter and the lab are within 5km of each other. If nothing else, that is an AMAZING coincidence. All other factors excluded, what are the odds that these two things would occur in that exact same 25 square KM area by matter of pure coincidence? Well, there is roughly 150 million square KM of land on earth. That would mean that there are 15 million 100 sq KM plots on earth, which places the odds of a 100 sq km plot being the same at 1 in 15 million. There are only 25 sq KM in this particular plot, so you would multiply that 100 sq km figure by 4. Essentially, ignoring all other factors, the odds of this being pure coincidence would therefore be 1 in 60 million.

With 1 in 60 million, yes one can still say we don't know, but it should certainly be by far the most likely assumption. To assume anything else would be nonsensical, and it always has been nonsensical to deny this overwhelming likelihood. Of course that has not stopped the left from doing so, and even to this day, you are still trying to make that argument.

 

I do not know who does and who does not believe the government, but one thing is for sure, the more they lie, the less people that believe them going forward.

 

Ya know, most masks came from China. Could he have changed his stance because of the money involved?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/business/china-medical-supplies.html

 

Just like you can always tell when a right winger doesn't know what the word "socialist" means . . . which is almost all of them. I'm more capitalist than any Trump supporter, by the way.

You literally engaged in name calling. Just now.

I await your evidence that the vaccines are more dangerous than the virus. Meanwhile, you should probably also learn what the word "socialist" means if you are going to use it.

 

That result is the same even when they tell the truth. Which is....when in your opinion?

Most people I know do their own investigations, or contract it out to more credible institutions.