Truth about COVID finally emerges

I am not sure what you are asking.

 

Personally, I have not delved into the notion of whether it was on purpose.

While I do not dismiss this as an impossibility, I need to see quite a bit more evidence before drawing that conclusion. My sole position is that it coincidentally happening that close to the lab is far too great of a coincidence to believe.

 

No, they didn't

You brought it up.

Again, you brought it up

What point would that be? Do you even know?

I think you shoud read what you wrote again. And then again.

See above. If what you say is true, then reading and comprehension is the problem.
What you said above is that the odds are astronomical that the virus came from a lab. You're arguing the opposite.

I'm not at all and have said that. It is YOU putting arguments into the other persons mouth.

 

The real question is where do you get your information to think they are lying and why do you believe that source.

 

Hmmm. My exact statement was "The odds of that coming from anything other than that lab are astronomical."

Saying the odds of it coming from anything other than the lab is not arguing the opposite. It is clearly and undeniably arguing that it is coming from the lab and the odds of it not being from the lab are astronomical. My wording is perfect for what I am conveying.

Your statement does not make a lick of sense. The reading and comprehension problem that exists here is clearly emanating from you. I have said nothing that is contradictory.


Furthermore, you keep saying that I brought "it" up. The "it" in question is throwing people in jail. There is only one person in this conversation that has made that suggesting, and it is you.

 

If you go back to that conversation, it was the other person ( the leftist) who said the government was lying, and his position was arguing that they SHOULD lie because the people cannot handle it. If you take exception to that notion, take it up with him. Context is everything.

 

He's a shady dude so I wouldn't be surprised he changed his stance because there was something in it for him.

 

Standards were adopted whether or not you follow them with state and local decisions.

 

Jon Stewart Meets the Divisive Country He Helped Create. “Does it matter if the new wave of hateful late-night hosts doubled down on his strategy? They learned it from watching him, and a corrupt media amplified their rage along the way.”

'Jon Stewart isn’t getting a taste of his own medicine. He’s gargling a nectar of his own creation. And, without a whiff of irony, he’s none too pleased about it. Stewart supported the pandemic lab leak theory more than a year ago on “The Late Show,” confounding both host Stephen Colbert and Progressive Nation.'

Everyone with a brain knew that it was a serious candidate for origin.

LYING FAKE NEWS MEDIA AND ROUGE EXECUTIVE AGENCIES ALL CIRCLED THE WAGONS AROUND THE NARRATIVE

Everyone with a brain made that connection. Those who deserve scorn are those that claimed it was a connection that couldn't rationally be made, when it was obvious that the Wuhan Lab was a potential source for the outbreak.

 

If you’ve accepted their lies, then I question your IQ.

 

Although your phraseology seems to direct the insult towards me, I'll assume you meant it regarding anyone. I would have stated it thusly: "I question the IQ of anyone that fell for their lies." That avoids making it a personal insult.

 

No, it wasn't. Yes, you said that way back but I was responding to "Earlier in this conversation, I said something to the effect that the odds of the epicenter of the normally bat based virus jumping to humans in the same place where there is a lab that experiments by modifying bat viruses into a human virus would be astronomical."
There is nothing in that statement that is "something to the effect". Maybe you just want to play both sides.

I just showed that is not what you said.

See above.....yeah, you did.

Wrong again.

 

(sigh) They never said that.
This is boring.

 

According to the CDC;

1. Loosely woven cloth products provide the least protection.

2. Layered finely woven products offer more protection.

3. Surgical masks and KN95 masks offer even more protection.

4. N95 masks offer the highest level of protection

NOTE; I have several pre-existing conditions, thus, for maximum protection, I wore the N95 mask, therefore, CDC hasn’t lied to me.

Last, in reference to cloth masks, John Hopkins Medicine recommends a Multi-layer Cloth mask…..Are they right or wrong?

If wrong, what about their research paper on Lockdowns?

 

It must have been that kind of lab leak similar to the East Palestine train derailment, deliberate.

 

During the Flu pandemic of 1918 masks mandates were imposed (to much resistance). Their effectiveness even then was much debated. Research didn't get dropped for the next 100 years, so scientists in organizations like the CDC weren't unaware of the ineffectiveness of masks when they made the following statements.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/14/health/cloth-masks-covid-cdc.html

Were you sick and coughing when you wore your mask? Did the CDC after a century of data suddenly discover that masks were necessary to stop the virus?

Masks protect who -- the wearer or those around them? The whole idea of masks is to protect others from the infected. If you're not infected people don't need to be protected from you. You're not spreading the virus. The idea that you're protected from the virus only provided a false sense of security. At best, with the best mask (N-95) the effectiveness of protection is about 54%. That's a crap shoot. Close to a 50/50 chance of not getting infected with a mask. Do you really think those odds warranted the strong arm of the government mandating the wearing of masks by the least vulnerable -- children?

A while back I had the opportunity to ask specialists in disease why she and other HCP were wearing face shields. You know what she told me? They protect them from patients that might be carriers. The masks protect the patients from them if the doctor are. Did you also wear a face shield? Did the CDC tell you to?

 

I'll let the Democrat Party, the party of American Socialists, tell you about American Socialism since you feign ignorance:

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/remember-when-maxine-waters-called-for-taking-over-oil-companies



Remember When Maxine Waters Called For ‘Taking Over’ Oil Companies?
By TFPP Wire
Published July 26, 2018 at 10:57am

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Waters called for nationalizing oil companies during a May 2008 hearing. She initially said “this liberal will be all about socializing” before correcting herself, and after a long pause continued to say, “basically taking over, and the government running all of your companies.”
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Perfect response to Democrat Socialists goes something like this:

We’ve seen the movie Democrats are playing. It’s called Hugo Chavez. How did your ideology work for Venezuela.

Soft or Democratic Socialism is when Democrats are friendly when they confiscate, err...Socialize, err...Nationalize private enterprise. In reality, there is no such thing as Democratic Socialism. As Mussolini discovered, there is no way to confiscate or exert control over private enterprise in a nice way. Thus, he installed Fascism. Schumer has showed us how Fascism works. The first step in getting Fascism off the ground in a Constitutional Republic is to neuter the gate keepers of our Constitution. When Schumer threatened a violent response to decisions he doesn't like, he worked to steer SCOTUS decisions his way. With that done, he went after the Bill of Rights, the First Amendment being first in line. He went after Americans' right to know what is being passed off as fact by threatening News Outlets who dared to broadcast actual videos that belied the lying narrative Democrats, err...Socialists, err...Fascists have been passing off as fact for years.

There is no daylight between Socialism and Fascism and very little daylight between a Socialist agenda and the agenda of the Democratic Party. If you need more help understanding what you align with, I'm happy to be of service.

 

Well, you have finally succeeded at turning this conversation into unrecognizable gobbledygook where no one knows what the hell is being discussed. Congratulations!

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


Good thing I made my point a long time ago. Now move along.

 

Interesting, so in post 5 when he said...
"The government didn't want us mad at China at the time. I don't blame them for that."...

and then later when he gave more detail in post 14 and said...
"The public doesn't need the truth just for the truth's sake. We are too stupid to handle it responsibly."...

it is your position that he was NOT claiming that the government should lie?

Doh, looks like you are wrong again.

On one aspect you ARE right, this IS boring. It is like shooting fish in a barrel. There is not a challenge involved.

 

If you have not read the analysis by David Martin, you're missing much. Whether the virus is real or not, a patent was issued for a corona virus back in 2003 as I recall. Whether the applicants fooled the US Patent Office or not, a patent was issued. That allowed others to apply for patents on methods to 'control' the patented virus (whether it actually exists or not). The number of patents issued for these means to 'control' was greater than 5000 about 2 years ago.

 

My assessment as to who misinformed, or disinformed the public;

1. Prior and after our first outbreak…..China unquestionably conducted a campaign of disinformation, and during a period when Trump labeled Xi Jinping as his good friend.

2. We had X number of misinformation from Trump. Note; Back then, some of his supporters blamed his experts for providing him with the wrong info….My response; Narcissists do often contradict themselves.

3. Fauci & Co….However, I believe that a great majority of government experts have unintentionally misinformed the public.

4. Mainstream and social media have undeniably misinformed the public

5. Many private medical entities/experts, and even John Hopkins; “According to our global study, the United States is the most prepared nation to handle a pandemic”. Huuummmm, WTF happened?

6. Both Democrats and Republicans ON THIS SITE, and including myself.

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My interest;

1. Knowing the origin of Covid-19…..Irrelevant to me.

2. Knowing HOW the CDC phoooked up their testing kit, its negative results, and during a period when Covid was growing exponentially….ABSOLUTELY!

 

If you look at the sequence of events, you may better understand how this whole thing got where it got and who was responsible:
May 2014 --- Fauci-Biden-Obama launched a gain-of-function project through EcoHealth Alliance
At least some of that EcoHealth Alliance grant went to Wuhan

October 2014 --- Fauci-Biden-Obama lied, told Nature Magazine that the US is no longer funding gain-of-function research

That was the first phase of the coverup

In January 2020, three researchers wrote Fauci to tell him that studies of the virus suggested that the virus was probably manmade. Fauci responded by telling the researchers to keep it quiet --- that the narrative was the virus came from a bat. All three then publicly stated that the virus came from a bat. Fauci also gave at least one of the researchers a grant --- perhaps hush money.

So, when you suggest that there was an unconstitutional relationship between the Feds and Social Media to silence anyone suggesting a lab leak --- it may well have been Fauci covering his tracks by telling Social Media Companies how dangerous it would be to allow the 'disinformation', AKA the truth, to be publicized.

https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/br...im-to-stay-quiet-about-covid-lab-theory-mace/

https://www.dailywire.com/news/how-...d-in-after-helping-fauci-bury-lab-leak-theory

 

Yeah, that's my position.
You have a real problem with context.

 

Fun fact: You would miss the fish.

 

Go ahead and pat yourself on the back.
In one post you make statement "A" in a later post you say that you in statement "A" you said "something to the effect" and then proceeded to claim the exact opposite of statement "A". Brilliant.
A strawman argument is your best argument.