Tucker Carlson may be able to fool gullible Fox viewers, but not federal courts

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    What did they accuse him of that would be proven by video?
     
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    Of course not....it was just reported, again and again. Was anyone charged with killing Ashli Babbit, the only one killed on 1/6? No not yet!
     
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    Video of him trespassing isn’t favorable
     
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    Ok let me know when he’s acquitted
     
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    Cleared, or not, doesn't change the fact that the prosecutor broke the law.
     
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    Leftists here really love the idea of repealing the sixth.

    https://www.guiltypleaproblem.org/#share_your_story

     
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    The vast majority of people who entered the Capitol never saw an act of violence. The footage proves that. That is relevant to their cases. Withholding that evidence was just another example of constitutional violations committed by government officials who have obviously abandoned our system of rights.
     
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    He pled guilty he was tried in a star chamber. After the truth about the Jan 6 investigations and trials becomes fully revealed trust in government and the media will drop like a stone. This is exactly what weaponizing government against the citizens does to a country. Unless this is corrected quickly a lethal civil war is inevitable.
     
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    What’s your issue with his actions in jan 6?
     
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    So you brought up something irrelevant, got it
     
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    So you’re right even if you’re proven wrong lol
     
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    The vast majority weren’t charged either…were they?
     
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    Trump tried to weaponize citizens against govt.
     
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    How was I proven wrong?
     
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    I’m saying you might be if these convictions stand
     
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    Even if the conviction stands, the prosecutor broke the law.
     
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    He shouldn't have called that protest. He should have let the transfer of power take place and then demanded a thorough investigation of voter fraud afterwards. He should have known that it could have gotten out of hand. He was told of the gang coming from NY and authorized 10,000 National Guard if needed.
     
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    A vast majority couldn't be identified..
     
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    Whether or not the data is irrelevant is not for you to decide. That is a question of fact for the jury. And you shouldn't be allowed within half a mile of any juries.
     
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    ‘He’s a demonic force, a destroyer.’ Read what Tucker Carlson said about Donald Trump in private vs. on Fox News.

    A new trove of communication recently released from Dominion Voting Systems’ $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News shows the host’s private contempt for the former president despite championing him on air.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/medi..._medium=email&utm_source=alert&location=alert

    Sooooo...... privately his thoughts were accurate about the Chump( trump)

    But he sold his integrity, ethical standards & credibility for those almighty "ratings"......and money........and appeasing the MAGA cult.leader.

    This is how democracies gradually morph into more authoritarian states.............Freedom of the press. media....... means facts, to the best of the reporters knowledge.........but when politics takes control of these outlets.......the information from them is not reliable......but geared to a specific group.

    The media has a role to keep the politicians "honest"............... not to spread the politicians propaganda.& lies.
     
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    That's for the jury to decide, not the prosecutor.
     
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    All 400 of those cases are in jeopardy of not only being reversed, but possibly of having charges dismissed with prejudice if prosecutorial misconduct can be proven. Which seems like a slam dunk, but we'll see how it plays out.

    In any event, none of the Monday morning quarterbacks in this forum has any idea what is on those tapes, save the few clips that have been released publicly so far. Nobody knows if they have actual exculpatory evidence, but it only has to be potentially exculpatory and intentionally withheld from the defense to be misconduct.

    This is basic stuff, and you don't even need to have gone to law school to understand that.

    I feel the need to remind everyone that my commentary in this thread is not indicative of my opinion of the guilt or innocence of any party, as I was literally in a coma that day, and for a month, month and a half afterwards.

    I am, however, very concerned about what appears to be black letter prosecutorial misconduct, especially on behalf of a DOJ that is already under fire over partisan actions taken on behalf of one party. And deservedly so.

    It also disturbs me, but does not surprise me, that so many partisans here are either ignorant of proper criminal procedure, or more likely do not care if it means putting orange man bad supporters in jail. I expect a good number of them want orange man bad supporters to be jailed just for being orange man bad supporters in the first place, irrespective of whether or not they actually committed a crime.
     
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    If I am reading what you are asking correctly, I will ask why not? It's the accused's absolute right to ask the court in cases where it is legitimate to postpone a court date. Not sure what Tucker has to do with any of this, but okay.
     
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    We were told by a chorus of media and politicians that the Qanon shaman was a violent extremist. Media pundits called for his execution. Now we have the footage of every second he was in the Capitol. He never committed any act remotely resembling violence. And he was denied his constitutional rights to have that footage.

    They lied about this man. And those calling for his death for milling about the Capitol with a police escort are the real violent extremists. They are the same scumbags who wanted me in a camp for not taking an experimental vaccine promoted by a man that was obviously instrumental in the creation of the virus that the vaccine was for.
     
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    Calson had the obligation to put on people who claimed voter fraud, even if he didn't believe it himself. But Carlson just didn't take their word for it, he asked them on the air and in private to show proof of what they said.

    " Fox's Tuesday filings, including nearly 20 separate "exhibits," was essentially a counter-punch to Dominion's documents filed last month in support of summary judgment. In those, Rupert Murdoch himself acknowledged in his deposition that some Fox News hosts had "endorsed" the stolen-election narrative on-air, despite privately expressing reservations about continuing to feed the lie without evidence.
    The network's sprawling and multifaceted defense is outlined in the email shared Tuesday with the press.
    It highlights pushback that hosts like Maria Bartiromo and Tucker Carlson leveled against Dominion conspiracy-theorist guests (primarily Sydney Powell and Rudy Giuliani) both on-air and privately, demanding evidence of any kind. It suggests via internal Dominion messages and memos that the voting-systems company was not materially harmed by Fox's reporting, and continued adding clients ever since. And it pooh-poohs the suggestion that Fox executives were concerned about losing ratings, and purports to demonstrate how several comments by Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch were taken out of context.
    But it also doubles down on doubts about the security of electronic voting machines like Dominion's.
    "Since their arrival two decades ago, electronic voting machines have been the subject of significant controversy and public scrutiny … Dominion's own employees expressed serious concerns about the security of its machines," the statement reads, using several Dominion employee emails to weave a tale of self-doubt and fears at the Denver-based company.
     
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