Turkey's treatment of their own Kurdish minority

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by Dibege, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. alan131210

    alan131210 New Member

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    lol nice try to hide your face behind kemalism and deny it . its not old and it lives in many of kemaists these days and you are a clear example of it . i posted a link and proof that kurdistan or land of kurds have existed and they did not arrive from space mr kemalist . and just cos "you" and your alikes deny 30+ million kurds and their lands it doesnt mean jack ;-) .
     
  2. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All racist dominators spend their time denying the rights of those they oppress, moving on to denying the existence of those they oppress as they travel towards the point where they deny all external reality entirely - at which point, with luck, they can get treatment.
     
  3. Chuckyy

    Chuckyy Banned

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    Mind your own business welsh.We dont need another western european lecturing cheap text with out any clue of what he is talking about.Thanks.
     
  4. alan131210

    alan131210 New Member

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    he can say what he wants and yes truth hurts we know . go deal with Israel for now they have vowed to help kurds and armenians . good luck .
     
  5. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't work censorship on here, Parteigenosse. The oppression of human beings is everyone's business.
     
  6. Breath

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    No ffs. You said they're all "Islamic states". An Islamic state and a Muslim-majority state are different. When you say Muslim-majority state this also include your beloved KRG. Despite Eritrea is not even a Muslim-majority state, (That's might be different in your Dibege's Rainbow Isle of Fantasy though so I don't blame you) Turkic-speaking states are Muslim-majority states with democracy and they're very moderate, that's why you never hear religious conflicts from any Turkic-speaking state unlike Iranic-speaking (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran etc) and Arabic states.
     
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    Dream on. Check this post out.
     
  8. Chuckyy

    Chuckyy Banned

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    I am tired of people like you who makes comments based on the westernized version of history and politics.Stop constantly victimazing others.Nothing is one sided.You dont have any idea about what others did to Turks and you need more than the words of 2-3 diaspora kurd who gets paid for propaganda in internet forums to make judgements about subjects.You dont say anything special though.Always the same text.
     
  9. alan131210

    alan131210 New Member

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    lol . i have a strong believe you are a banned member return . as the saying "paid propaganda kurds" rings a good bell . you have been reported .
     
  10. alan131210

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    we dont nor make anything up all we say is true infact we are not alone . you have kurds Armenians greeks who also have suffered by your hands are they also liars and only you are right ? and if we kurds defend our rights and show the real face of turkey that makes us paid propagandist ? lol the same thing could go for the turkish members . start been realistic .
     
  11. Chuckyy

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    Report yourself.Because I saw you in another political forum website copy pasting exactly the same things with the exact same threads and exact same nick.You and your friend Dibege.Thats why its not so hard to understand you are a paid worker to do that.Whoever said you are a paid worker before he/she was right because you really are.
     
  12. Chuckyy

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    http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=127768 <<<<< here is the website that you spread around the same material.I found it by chance while searching for a political forum.For admins attention,I dont paste this as commercial or spam material.Just to prove my point.

    Here you are,even your friend is dibege there too.You even have a warning LoL.Thats why I called you a paid worker.Maybe your mind is too confused with different forum websites thats why you started to mistake users LoL.
     
  13. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't like criticism, do you? Better start another genocide or so, hadn't you? You'll have to learn to take criticism if you want to join the EU, you know. Only a crazy thinks criticism is victimisation, you know. I'm afraid you are ignoring the normal Muslim attitude to alcohol. Don't.
     
  14. The Turk

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    While I disagree with Chucky in many things, I would agree that there are so many clueless people here making comments that they have no idea about. So don't be one of them, Iolo.
     
  15. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are getting like the American right wing, who always know that anyone who disagrees with them is wholly ignorant. I know a fair bit of history and have been in Turkey, but more to the point I know very well that NO NATIONAL GROUP SHOULD EVER BE RULED BY ANOTHER, because all history proves it.
     
  16. The Turk

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    My assumption of your knowledge on Turkey has nothing to do with my disagreement with you. Infact I don't remember when I strongly disagree with you in general. There are millions of people who have been to Turkey but unfortunately there are not that amount of Turkey experts in the world. So you having been to Turkey might not as important as you really think.

    The Kurdish-Turkish relation is complicated enough so you should work hard on it to understand the situation, but your comments don't really help us understand how well you know the situation.
     
  17. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone who lives in a situation of internal colonialism himself doesn't need the detail to know which side he is on. And no, I didn't consider staying in Turkey any great qualification: I didn't need it.
     
  18. The Turk

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    I also believe in self determination. No discussion there. But every country is different and every situation is unique in this regard. The questions of HOW, WHEN, WHERE and WHO on the Kurdish liberation is important and why you guys fail so much.

    So this is not simply about taking a side. This is about analysing the situation deeply to reach a conclusion.
     
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    i dont remember letting you deal with my bank LOL . what an idiotic post . reported again .
     
  20. alan131210

    alan131210 New Member

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    lol your so pathetic . yes i am a member there and i can be a member at any website there is noting you can do about it no matter how much you cry and tell the world how racist kemalists like you are towards kurds and there confidicated rights .
     
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    who do you mean by clueless ! and you dont need to live in a country to kn ow its history and the way its dealing with its minority ,internet and youtube can tell and show you things that before was impossible to know .
     
  22. The Turk

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    Alan, we need a Turkish Kurd in this forum. Then I can really feel comfortable discussing the issue.

    Look at this thread, an archaic video is supposed to present the current situation in Turkey. What's more I have just posted what has been going on Turkey recently. (See BDP Congress.)

    By Clueless people, I mean mostly Westerners. But you don't seem well informed either. You can't learn everything from Kurdish sources. Who says the Kurdish media always says the truth? Examine the Kurdish, Turkish and international sources, and then come to a conclusion.
     
  23. Chuckyy

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    I dont mind criticism.I am just tired of one way criticism and this style here is not an objective criticism.Just whinings and complaining "you did this,you did that" like they are only victims.If you care about victims,be fair and speak a few words for the Turkish victims,or for the Azeri Turkish victims of armenians and kurds.Probably you dont have any idea about what others did to Turks.

    The last sentence points out your narrow minded way of thinking and judgemental stereo typical point of view.Not everybody is religious in Turkey and personaly I am an atheist so only a 5 year old would make an alcohol joke to offend someone thats from a muslim populated country.For your information,muslims drink alcohol in Turkey too.

    If EU manages to learn not sweeping their own dirt under the carpet,I can learn to handle objective criticism too dont worry.By the way,no one cares about EU membership in Turkey.
     
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    My posts will be equal to the level you are offering until you start making sense.
     
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    Try Harder and cry me a river.These are cheap and over rated tactics really.Kemalist racist and other text book internet insults are old now.Find new ones.
     

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