Twisting Scripture: The lies of Homosexuality.

Your differences are meaningless.

Both customers requested subject matter that was provocative, supporting gay weddings is provocative to some people, opposing the idea of gay weddings is provocative to other people. But that is irrelevant - what is relevant is that in both cases the bakers refused content that the bakers found objectionable.

That is not true. Both bakers offered a cake, both refused to write/draw what the bakers considered provocative.

 

I don't think either one is wrong and masterpiece should be able to decline gay customers that want a wedding cake, forcing him to make them is outlandish, placing him on probation is unacceptable. But he did turn down customers because they were gay. I don't think that is wrong and I certainly don't think it should be illegal.

 

In one, the entire service was denied (no wedding cake) because of sexual orientation, in the other only provocative items were denied (offered Bible cake and frosting for free) which had nothing to do with religion.

You are being purposefully obtuse.
Bakery that makes wedding cakes finds a wedding cake provocative... ok, that is absurd

 

Public accommodation laws directly infringe on the rights of others, involuntary servitude - forcing somoene to work for another.

The issue is some classes of people believe they should be able to force others to bend to their will, but should be free from it from others.

 

Right, either get rid of all accomadation laws, or the ones that protect LGBTs are appropriate.

 

Don't be foolish, you understand the issue by this point.

Masterpiece did not find a wedding cake offensive, it found the participation in a gay wedding offensive. Just like Azucar, Masterpiece offered to sell a cake to the customer and the customer could put the finishing touches on the cake himself.

 

The homosexuals here can't be honest. To be honest would acknowledge their own bigotry towards Christians.

 

What someone does with a good (sold regularly to the public) is not the businesses concern.
Masterpiece did not offer to sale a cake without writing or images - that's a straight up lie - they refused the wedding cake entirely.

 

Yes, homosexuals are so bigoted against Christians they are trying to deny them the right to marry, serve in the military, adopt or... wait... omg... that's the Christians doing all of that to gay people, who are just wanting equal service.

 

From post #405:

You should read all the posts. And you should read the articles and get up to speed.

 

No where did I see they only refused writing. They refused the entire wedding cake.
Example: A black person goes to buy a suit and you say sorry, you cannot have a suit, here is a pair of jeans instead... In the other example the tailor refused to write (*)(*)(*)(*) you on their suit, but still sold the suit and then gave them the needle and thread.

I don't know if you are having trouble with the word writing or the word images, they refused a similar good that they sell daily, no special images or words were requested. Offering a cupcake instead does not suffice.

Continue playing stupid, we will continue winning court cases.

 

Winning court cases has nothing to do with justice or fairness. The gays have won their court cases through good PR, intimidation, political power allowing them to influence local regulator appointments and politicians.

Times are changing. The gay stack of cards is going to collapse.

On the bakery issue, you have refused the facts and stick to your bias. That's a small example of why the gay agenda has reached its zenith, you refuse reality in order to maintain your bias which puts you in a closet of your own making.

 

I thought this was about homosexuals twisting scripture. When did it turned political?

 

When the bible thumpers lost the argument.

 

Everything turns political when discussing anything with leftist propaganda parrots. It's all about their rights to force people to do their bidfing, ya know. They're special. Submit or else they're gonna take you before an activist judge and destroy you. Hopefully, those days will be coming to an end.

Here's a link to try to get the thread back to the original topic.
http://www.focusonthefamily.com/soc...h/revisionist-gay-theology-did-god-really-say

 

Yes, ignore the facts and claim victory, then claim gay rights are coming to an end. I haven't seen that before

Ah yes, we are going to roll back same sex rights, define marriage in its traditional form (with divorce of course), and ignore those evil gays for having the audacity of believing they could buy a wedding cake in a *gasp* place that sells wedding cakes...

Homosexual rights are advancing so quickly because the only reasons against it are so bat (*)(*)(*)(*) crazy, no one in the mainstream can advocate for it - and the people that think like you are an ever decreasing minority (38% and counting).

 

"I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left." (Luke 17:34, KJV)

Sounds pretty homosexual to me.

The Greek word used here δύο (dyo) is masculine, meaning "two men", as the King James Version has correctly translated. So one Gay partner who was a Christian is raptured into Heaven and the other who was not remains behind in the bed.

 

Excellent. Thanks for providing an excellent example related to the topic. Here's the solution.
http://m.topix.com/forum/religion/christian/TRNPEGQ3JPNE993QL

 

Yep, black will be slaves again. Women will lose the right to vote. We are going to take back the supreme court and be like the 1800s once again. Woo hoo!!!!

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Its about everyone twisting scripture.
Please quote scripture of Jesus hating on gays. No one has ever done it yet.

 

And hypocritical adulterers keep on living the adulterous life style. And those adulterers, become hypocrites when whining about gays.
You should give that some serious thought.

And those adulterers whining, have NO credibility at all. And should put the entire thread on ignore.

 

Not much of a solution. Look at the grammar. And compare verses 34 and 35. In 34 the word "dyo" is an adjective in the nominative masculine plural, and in verse 35 it is an adjective in the nominative feminine plural. The grammar of these verses clearly refutes the idea quoted in that link you posted: "Actually a quick study online reveals that the word "men" is not in the original text, just the phrase 'two were in bed'." Again, the grammatical structure of the verse leaves no room for misunderstanding that it means "two men in bed" and not simply "two people in bed". This is because in verse 34 it clearly says "Ho Heis" ("the one") and "Ho Heteros" ("the other") in masculine form, whereas in verse 35 it says "He Mia" ("the one") and "Hetera" ("other") in feminine form. Unlike in English, in Greek language articles are divided into masculine and feminine forms (Ho - masculine; He - feminine)

And this is why the King James Version has correctly translated the Verse: "there shall be two men in one bed"

 

Gay rights reached their logical and rational conclusion with the recognition of gay marriage. The gays won, they got what they claimed they wanted. They could have gone home, lived their lives, left everyone else alone, taken the live and let live approach. There would be some commotion but as soon as everyone (gays, religious people, etc) realized they could simply leave each other alone then everyone would have adapted and gone about their lives.

But the gays had to keep pushing and turned a fight for equality into revenge. They went after religion with their accommodation law complaints, they went after churches via tax exempt status, they went after children through the transgender bathroom issue, and they pushed the absurd "gender is a choice" scam on everyone through the various govt agencies.

Each one pissed off a large segment of people who were supporters of gay marriage, each one proved the fears of overreach were valid, each one turned complaints that were formerly considered wild conspiracy theory into fact.

Times are changing. Gay rights reached its zenith, and is now seen as the social agenda of lunatics.

 

Again, doesn't mean they are homosexuals and the word "men" isn't in the original transcripts.

 

I agree. You have it right!!

 

Baking a cake has nothing to do with religion
Accommodation laws exist for other disenfranchised minorities (or majority's that control the system)
Churches, or any organization, violating the basis for their 501(c)(3) should have it revoked
Children are more likely to be victimized in churches than in bathrooms by trans people

Sorry y'all are starting to be treated equally, I know its difficult after being allowed to bend law to your will - but the pain is necessary as you no longer control the entire system.