Twisting Scripture: The lies of Homosexuality.

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  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    I don't think so.
     
  2. Maccabee

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    Who says they are in a relationship at all? And if they are who says that verse condones their relationship? There is such a thing as a backsliding Christian. Either way a little off subject but the one taken away is not the one raptured. The one taken away is the one snuffed out by God's glory coming down. The one remaining is the righteous one.

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    No where in the Bible does it say to hate on gays. What it does say however is that homosexuality is a sin.
     
  3. dairyair

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    The passage said men were laying with each other.
    Look at how you have to stand on your head to try and justify what is plainly written. Just to make yourself holier than thou. Or smarter than God.


    BFD. The bible is full of things that are sins. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you sin everyday.
    Further out on a limb, and say you know people in a 2nd or more marriage. That didn't get divorced and remarried for the only 2 reasons the bible allows so one doesn't become an adulterer.

    When one never sins again, then and only then, can they complain about another's sin. Else shut up.

    Being a hypocrite is very frowned upon by God and Jesus. When one stops sinning and being a hypocrite. Then maybe they will have a leg to stand on to tell others how they are sinning.
     
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    Some posts by hypocrites keep on coming.
     
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    No english word is in the original transcripts. But hypocrites try to find some translation to suit their agenda.
     
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    You can't win an argument based on the bible. A thumper is no better than one who doesn't give a rats patooty about the bible. Thumpers all lose.
     
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    Everybody knows the answer to that one:





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  8. Polydectes

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    That's exactly what happened.
     
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    Which argument have y'all won, so far?
    Yes y'all push some temporary (unconstitutional) law every once in a while but it always gets struck down.
    Your brand of insanity is no better than those calling for sharia law.
     
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    They can't win an argument because they can't prove that god wrote the bible, nor can they prove god even exists.

    All they have is "no true Scotsman fallacies and shifting the burden of proof. [MENTION=70321]Maccabee[/MENTION] Is quite guilty of this.
     
  11. Maccabee

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    It says in the KJV "two men in one bed" first of all and second, as I said even if the passage means what our modern interpretation of it means that still does not condone the act. The Bible also speaks about lying with each other for warmth.
    True.

    Again, true. And if this was a thread about that I would voice my opinion on that. But it isn't about that. It's about homosexuality in its relation to scripture.

    So I guess if I see someone murdering another I shouldn't say anything?

    Being a hypocrite is commuting the same sin or worse while condemning the other. For example I condemn you for killing a tree while I just finished a mass shooting. Again, besides, the Bible says to judge people by their fruits and to judge righteously.

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    Try me.

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    I was speaking about the Bible. Not law.

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    Example?
     
  12. Polydectes

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    Example of what?
     
  13. Maccabee

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    Example of me using the "true Scotsman" fallacy.
     
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    You did say that if people didn't believe the way you thought thru should than they aren't christian did you not?
     
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    Murdering another is infringing on that persons right. 2 adults consenting on what they want to do is none of your business. I am surprised you can't see the difference.

    One must be righteous in the 1st place to judge righteously. And since no one knows if they are righteous in Gods/Jesus' eyes until the day of judgement, they are only guessing and in all likelyhood guessing wrong.
    So be safe and don't unrighteously judge others would be good. So it best not to be a hypocrite.
     
  16. Maccabee

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    I did said that according to the Bible if you don't believe that Jesus rose from the cross and is your Lord and savior then you're not a Christian.

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    Murdering is a sin. You said that I'm a hypocrite for pointing out other people's sins. That's my original point.
    So that means I can't judge people for murdering?
     
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    Don't play dumb.
     
  18. dairyair

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    Murder is not a sin. There are reasons for killing that are allowed in the bible. Murder is a human term to describe a certain type of killing for sentencing the person.
    So, no, you can't judge a person for killing. The reason may be valid.
    The words kill and murder are thrown around in the language so much one doesn't know what context it is used in.
    I don't believe the original texts(words) use the word murder, as it probably didn't exist at the time of being authored.

    And what makes you the authority on whether your judgement is righteous or not? Only God or Jesus can make that judgement, correct? So you'd only be guessing you are being righteous in your judgement. As a sinner, could be a dangerous game to play, if one thinks there may be some after life paradise.
     
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    Usually I ignore your ignorant ramblings, but this was just too flagrant. The Hebrew in the account of the commandments for "Thou shall not kill" means "murder". Look up the Hebrew for yourself.
    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...s-a20120412apr12_1_commandment-killing-murder
     
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    Yep. The hebrew word is murder.

    Most will ignore when the words hit to close to home and one can't admit it. It's easier than manning up.
     
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    I'm genuinely curious as to when I played the "true Scotsman" card. If you don't provide evidence then its safe to assume that you're blowing smoke.
     
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    You've already show'd your ignorance of the Bible once in this thread. The Bible specifically outlines that the malicious unprovoked killing of a human being is murder. So yes, murder is a sin and by your logic I can't speak out against because I can't judge people.

    I said "murder", not "killing."

    To you maybe.

    The Hebrew uses it and the KJV gives context as to when killing and murder are different.

    It's you that's playing a dangerous game with your interpretation. By your interpretation of "thou shalt not judge" that means the judicial system and police are committing a huge sin by their mere existence.
     
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    Yep, you can call out murder. I had it wrong. Was thinking of killing.
    And murder is illegal. So it can be called out.
    Being gay is not illegal.

    I'm not playing a dangerous game, for I don't believe there is some magical place reserved for certain hypocrites.
     
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    I'm not going back through the whole thing again.

    I may have been mistaken with you, but it's a common fallacy put forth by religious people.
     
  25. Maccabee

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    Murder is a sin in the Bible just as lying. Why purely based on the Bible I can call out murder but not lying because I don't want to be a hypocrite.
     

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