Twitter locks Trump’s account following video addressing Washington rioters

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, in a lame tweet, no doubt being pressured by staff. He should have showed up, in person and made a passionate call. He did egg them on, and told them in the rose garden "I love you", if I recall correctly.

    He didn't rise to what the occasion demanded, sorry.
     
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    They are silencing Trump because he has yelled "Fire" way too many times already. If he was a normal person his account would have been axed a long time ago. Now, that said, I don't agree with them suspending the POTUS account. I think that shows complete disrespect for the office and position it affords. Instead I think Trump should be ousted from office now, constitutionally. I don't think he is fit to spend another day in office, the 25th should be invoked.

    Some of the domestic terrorists that stormed the capital were marching with confederate battle flags. Sedition definitely comes to mind there... It is my understanding that it was the first time confederate flags were flown in the capital building. I am an American! I believe in the constitution, I believe in our flag. It guts me when I see people kneeling during the National Anthem. But what I saw yesterday and what I have read and listened to from Trump has shaken me to my core. I am appalled that as a country our citizens have become so weak in our resolve and duty that we turn our heads when rioting and violence happens. It doesn't matter what form or origin they may have. Riots are wrong, left, right, centrist, BLM, Antifa, Storm the Capital. They should be punished swiftly and harshly. We need to be resolved to seek justice against domestic terrorism. We need to back our judicial system in harsh punishments for these criminals, otherwise the deterrent doesn't exist and actions have no consequence.

    Personally, I think anyone involved in storming the capital yesterday should have their citizenship revoked and imprisoned for domestic terrorism.

    Sorry, hot button for me, I just can't believe that really happened. I knew it was possible, but I didn't think it would actually happen.
     
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    The point is that Twitter deleted his very calls for protesters to leave peacefully, and called them "incitement". That's insane! Those tweets were the exact opposite of incitement. Twitter lied.
     
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    Thanks for the demonstration of the short term memory retention. I guess all that crap in the "saving America" rally BEFORE the terrorist attack on the Capitol was nothing.

    I guess the "the election was stolen and he won bigly" in that peace and love message wasn't completely debunked bullshit?

    pathetic? you apparently know all about that.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there isn't any question that this will be one of the jewels of Trump's legacy. It will be a day that lives in infamy forever.
    History will not look kindly on Dear Leader Donnie.
     
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  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, he was pressured by staff as people were being killed in an insurgency he inspired.

    He should have showed up in person and made a passionate call, in frickin' person.

    But, he doens't have the 'nads to do that, He tweets lame tweets.

    If you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig, in other words.

    He owns this thing, as all those senators who objected during the vote confirmation session.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Try actually reading the legal protection then. I am not confusing anything. I am relaying the actual intent of the protection. I know, it doesn't support your view of the world, because it allows your team to profit and dictate what public speech can look like. How dreadfully authoritarian of you. The minute that FB, Google, Twitter et al are relieved of their protection, their curated content will be governed in the same way as any other private conveyance, and all of the standards of the law will become applicable. And once that happens? Those platforms lose their power as propaganda that they have become.

    Since you obviously don't know the law here, you aren't credible in your assessment.
     
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    Section 230 is a different issue. What twitter did was not fascism. They have been banning users for violating rules. I was silenced for 24 hours last month because of some tweets and had to delete those tweets to restore my account.

    Break the rules and you get punished. Should be an easy concept to understand for the lol and odor party.
     
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    Thank you for this. This is what it means to have tolerance even when we disagree, we still don't' attempt to suppress the voices of others.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Who high level officials? Other than democrats? Even Axios says your conclusion here is wrong.
     
  11. Darthcervantes

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    we are about to have a huge influx of MS-13 members come into the country and steal our tax dollars and this guy is worried about someone's Twitter account

    we now know the priorities of the left

    jeez, whats wrong with these folks?
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Again, you simply don't know the law. stop digging your own hole. I'd think you'd be embarrassed by now.
     
  13. Athelite

    Athelite Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No I just don't agree with your interpretation of the law. Break the tos, get punished. Simple concept.
     
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    Voting rule changes in swing States were not made in accordance with the US Constitution. This is all covered in the Texas petition to SCOTUS which no doubt few liberals have read or are even aware of. The fact that SCOTUS too cowardly to rule on the case does not mean the Constitutional arguments made by Texas and supported by an Amicus Brief signed by 126 members of the House were not sound.

    Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution:

    “[e]ach state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors...
     
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    How tragic it must be for the RW.

    How tragic it must be that Trump, The GOP, and the RW Echo Chamber didn't invent Twitter.

    Ya snooze, Ya lose.
     
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    The fact that our government is controlled by an Oligarchy should offend everyone. If you are not offended perhaps a little self examination is in order.
     
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    So, just a question. If folks violated the TOS for Twitter and FB et al when they published the product of an illegal act, vis a vis, publishing trump's tax returns, violation of IRS statues... Why didn't twitter, FB et all take down those posts, ban or otherwise suspend news outlets reporting it, etc. We have time.
     
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    Once again we have reached an impasse.

    And, we have to be subjected to the same tired arguments coming from Trump.(and those who support him).

    Once again, for the Hundredth Time, we are subjected to the RW whining about the fact that they didn't invent Twitter.

    If you don't like Twitter, then go to Parler (or invent your own)

    ^Problem solved.

    This constant whining about "Twitter Bad" has gotten beyond old.
     
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    Actually, I did read that toilet paper Texas petition.

    1) Texas has ZERO standing to dispute laws in other states, which...

    2) SCOTUS correctly and Constitutionally pointed out,

    3) The ultimate authority on STATE laws are the STATE SUPREME courts( which ruled on the PA lawsuits). SCOTUS correctly and CONSTITUTIONALLY declined
    to intervene in a STATE case because it didn't violate the US Constitution.

    If you want to dispute the validity of a law in the State of PA written by the PA Legislature, go to PA and try your luck.
     
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    Firstly are we not talking about voting rules v. voting laws, i.e., rules implemented by the PA Secretary of State not the PA Legislature? Do you claim otherwise?

    Secondly, SCOTUS ruled lack of standing for Texas. They did not rule that the Constitution was not violated by voting rule changes implemented in PA.

    As Joe Friday always said - "Just the Facts."
     
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    Adam Kinzinger. And Pelosi and Schumer, of course.
     
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    And if you read at least Pennsylvania's response you would see how it disagrees. It isn't up to Texas to determine if a state follows its own rules. It is up to that states courts to determine if it follows its own rules. Not Texas or the SCOTUS. And since those states say they were within their rights, that is the final say. We are a federation of states after all. Do we really want another state or the the SCOTUS to tell other states how to conduct their own business? Can of worms, just saying.


    It absolutely does offend me. But Trump wasn't going to change that. To be honest, I'm not sure how it changes...
     
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    I don’t understand the “if so why didn’t they?” question. Who on Twitter or fb posted tax returns and is there a tos against that?

    but I think somewhere in the tos there’s a part that says “at their discretion”, you would have to agree to that to use the service.
     
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    His voice is still heard
     
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    But those rules aren’t applied equally. People Tweeted endlessly about Trump being a Nazi. NOT banned. They Tweeted about him being a Russian spy. NOT banned. They tweeted photos of someone holding his severed head. NOT banned. They tweeted that he called troops losers recently. NOT banned! People have Tweeted he says and has done a lot of things that are completely false and misleading. NOT banned. But if you even mentioned anything about Hunter Bidens business or taxes. That got you banned. Endless Tweets disparaging and lying about a smiling teen while a drunk Native American beat a drum in his face and no big deal. Destroyed the kids life. Nothing.

    Same with disparaging BLM. BANNED!!!! Show videos of certain people rioting and burning. That can get you easily banned. But you can bash the proud boys all you want and call them racist and Nazis? I don’t support either of them but ignoring the obvious double standard Twitter applies is just ignorant.
     
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