Typical Iranian Military Cowards Hiding In A Consulate.

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  1. Shutcie

    Shutcie Newly Registered Donor

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    Your love for all humans is admirable, right up to the part where the planes hit the buildings.
    HAMAS is an organization made up of Palestinians and other Muslim religious zealots.
    HAMAS is supported by Palestinians.
    HAMAS is supported by Iran.
    HAMAS has declared that it exists to destroy Israel and the west, specifically America.
    HAMAS has demonstrated many times that they are willing to commit horrific crimes against innocent people to further their goal.

    You are welcome to love HAMAS and the individuals who are HAMAS and who support HAMAS.
    I prefer that we not negotiate with or show mercy to any of them before a marine boot is firmly planted on the last HAMAS members neck.

    This is not hate I exhibit.
    This is simple survival; I do not want my friends, family (in particular my children or grand child) to be anywhere close to the kind of hate and brutality HAMAS brings. And if you think there are not HAMAS and HAMAS supporters now in America, you need to think again or find a hole in the ground to put your head. They are here, they intend our destruction, and they are willing to die to further that goal.
     
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    Shutcie Newly Registered Donor

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    And your source for this would be ................
    Wait, don't tell us, it would be HAMAS, the Palestinian authority (which is run by HAMAS) or another HAMAS supporting agency.
     
  3. Josh77

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    Because then the treatment of Palestinians would not change. Why would they give up the only leverage they have to improve the lot of the Palestinians? Personally I wish they would, but those radicals likely feel like they have nothing to lose, and are already consumed by hate likely because Israel has already slaughtered their families.

    There are no good guys in this conflict. Not Hamas, and definitely not the IDF.
     
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    We have to move beyond simple survival. We have to ask ourselves WHY people fly planes into buildings and work to fix those problems. The classic propaganda is that "well, they are muslims, and Islam is a death cult", but that is definitely not the case. There are incidents and conditions that radicalize these people, conditions that can be avoided and fixed if the world would take time to address them, and if humans would stop exploiting eachother for personal gain. People don't strap explosives to themselves for simple religious reasons. There are deep issues there that need to be addressed and resolved if our children are going to live in a better world free of all the **** that older generations have caused in this world.
     
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    Our own government is acknowledging ALL of this, and are furious over it. I don't know why you continue to deny it.
     
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    Tell you what.
    You can wring your hands and try to understand why someone thinks flying planes into our buildings, or why brutally raping and torturing innocents is good practice.
    I'll support our troops and cheer when they permanently eliminate the problem.

    You've fallen into the old "if we go back far enough in history and look with our 21st century lens we can find something to be offended by."

    Sorry. After say, a century, the offense becomes irrelevant to settling scores.
     
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    And your source for this is what, Israeli news outlets?

    Smh. How about you give us independent assessments on October 7...oh wait, Israeli don't allow ANY independent journalists inside. iWonder why...
     
  8. Just A Man

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    I'm an old timer who has seen this movie before. It starts out with a stark difference between a Muslim country and Israel. Israel is prosperous, peaceful, educated, and cultured. The Muslem countries are backward countries, living in tents and riding camels, and take a pledge in their religion to kill all Jews. As the small skirmishes flare up over the years, with Israel buses being bombed or a rocket or two fired into an Israeli town, soon Israel is fully attacked. We hear very little condemnation regarding the attack. Then when Israel retaliates much of the world turns against Israel. Seen this movie many times. Only thing missing is popcorn and intermission.
     
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    Israel is doing things even worse as we speak. It seems to me that these are questions that MUST be solved if we are going to leave our children and grandchildren a better world. It's not finding things to be "offended by", it is looking for where problems exist that breed the hatred that cause these problems to happen. If you feel you are too good to try and make the world a better place for our children and grandchildren, then I don't know what to say. What I do know, is that slaughtering civilians and thinking that will somehow reduce the amount of radicalization is absolutely absurd.
    I have all the respect in the world for our troops, but our troops are not taking part in these actions at the moment, thank god. The things we did in Iraq and Afghanistan were bad enough. Spending four years over there showed me that nothing we did there was necessary, and did not solve any problems. It only aggravated them.

    We need to get out of the mindset of trying to solve all problems with military might. It is idiotic. There are far better ways to do things.
     
  10. Just A Man

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    You know that, I know that, many sane peaceful people know that -- But then all it takes is one deranged leader to start a war. And there are a few of those around, aided by many war-hawks. Thus we will always have wars. Best to follow Theodore Roosevelt's advice . . . "Walk softly but carry a big stick".
     
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    We have the ability to put an end to Israel's slaughter of innocents. We can deny that big stick to those that would use it unjustly if we are the one supplying them. I was all for Israel defending itself when this started, but they have gone WAY too far. If we just keep supplying them with weapons and munitions (Which we just sent more of) then we are complicit in the atrocities that are being committed. We have the leverage to stop this. I cannot understand for the life of me why this administration will not put an end to Netanyahu's slaughter in Gaza.
     
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    You mean well but you are in a dream world. Let's say a neighbor shot into your home with a .22 rifle for no good reason and killed your 14-year-old daughter and took your wife hostage. Sounds like the Hamas. Then you go next door with a bazooka and blow the roof completely off his house and that resulted in his wife and three kids being killed. Sounds like Israel. Then the cops show up and tell you that you are overreacting. That sounds like Hamas and most of the world. They are asking you to lay down your bazooka and walk home? Would you? Or would you keep trying to kill your neighbor and hoping you could get your wife released? I think you would want to teach your neighbor a lesson. I would.
     

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