U.N. climate report shows civilization is at stake if we don’t act now

Just send the surplus water into space.

Or better yet, use it to irrigate the deserts.

 

Hey, this planet didn't come with a lifetime warranty..

 

With a President in the White House, who denies climate change and many Americans doing the same, nothing will happen in the US!

Funnily enough, the main reason in the US against the acceptance of the facts is that it affects the core elements of the US and the American Way of Life, and that's why it's being fought!
And that's why any BS study of any idiot from any university that man-made climate change is wrong, is particularly celebrated in the United States.

 

Can’t. Not enough ground cover to hold it in. That’s what this plan is really all about.... fixing the desertification of the planet, which yes, is a big problem outside of climate change. This could potentially fix one and mitigate the other.

 

Noone wants to live like folks had to in Eastern Europe in the 70s comrade....

 

No need to hold it, a load of unemployed hippy's can run backwards and forwards ot the sea with buckets.

 

Plenty of reason to hold it. The fact it doesn’t hold it, leads to more desertification. Trying to stop that, not increase it.

 

Nah. Let god roll the dice.
Just give the hippy's something to do. Or they feel all stupid.

 

The UN are liars. This story has been regurgitated for the last 50 years

 

You have lack of foresight.. I've already contact my real estate agent about beach front property near McMurdo..

 

1970 Warning:
Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

 

A topic based on a false premise is ripe for derailment. Man is not changing climate so the topic is interesting from an agriculture point of view but carbon seaquestration is irrelevant

 

And more recently the IPCC warned us Himalayan glaciers would be gone by 2020 but instead they are increasing in size.

 

There has been a 6th mass extinction as documented by Elizabeth Kolbert. It started tens of thousands of years ago when homo sapiens migrated from Africa. Every where he went the mega fauna were wiped out. First were several species of humans. Thus sapiens are the only species within the genus homo left alive.

 

And your point?

 

Oh I am not against better farming methods and farmers will choose such methods in a free market. And when I was a kid in the 1950's we had red tides that closed beaches which were wide open back then. Geez I remember my dad saying "who would ever spend $5000 for a piece of sand on he beach"................ARRRAAAAGGGGH

 

Isn't that adaptation and survival of the fittest?

 

If hypothetically none of the disasters occur that all these scientists have been claiming, can we bury them all in ice, holding signs that point to each other that say, "I'm with Stupid"? But seriously, what is the punishment for being wrong? If their suggestions cost us trillions, what if their predictions are way off? At this point, can anyone claim that nothing would happen to them besides an "ooops!".

 

Agreed it's a problem. However, by your own example it's not that there isn't enough food but that we don't have the logistical capability to send it where people are starving. People talk about carbon footprints; what do you think is the carbon footprint of a freighter carrying 100,000 tons of leftover McDonald's hamburgers from New York to Somalia?

Sam Kinison had a great bit once; don't send starving people food - send them U-hauls.

NSFW ...or little ears.

 

The deniers of anthropogenic climate change are ideological fanatics on the fringe.

They can be ignored, because there is a global consensus regarding the scientific data and the need to take responsibility.

Solutions - or, at least, remedial measures - are underway, and they are multitudinous. Progress is being made, and the urgency is now clear for sensible folks.

Restoring grassland soil carbon is one important step.

 

The impact event that took out the dinosaurs wasn't evolution, but those species who adapted or died afterwards were certainly examples of evolution.

Same with climate change, a supervolcano or another impact event. It can all happen, with climate change the most controllable of the 3.

 

Evolution of the planet and survival of the fittest and the climate has always changed is always in a flux of change and self regulation.

 

Its economics and governments that are the problem. Wanna bet 5 years from now if not sooner we will be hearing the cries of people starving in South Africa?

 

Oh, but their hearts were true... right? I happen to agree with you. Stupid should have real consequences. But, unfortunately, even the most resolute of the AGW acolytes have insulated themselves. Watch the threads, where the conflation of probability becomes the assertion of must happen. And the marketing we hear is always the assertion of these things will happen, not that they have a probability of it, right? So, the "out" is that the folks actually generating this garbage simply say, our statistics indicated a prediction, but other folks covered our predictions in policy. Which is again simply BS. These folks who have been so remarkably wrong and so often wrong then fall back on, well, it was just a probability, not a promise of anything. And they slime away... again.

So, something else has to happen. Faith. And we get the dynamic we see today. The "consensus" claim. The "everyone 'knows' this" version of the world. So similar to the articles of faith. The "I believe in..." catechism is so similar, and because it is, it's easy to assume and adopt for folks. It's just packaging. Probabilities aren't real, they're simply mathematic outputs. And that, truly, is the problem.

 

Agreed on space colonization. Just carving up Yosemite for condos like Mayor Daley did to Meigs Field isn't the best solution. It's like amputating a finger to cure a minor infection.