U.S. Projects Summer Spike in Infections if Stay-At-Home Orders Are Lifted

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  1. david gullikson

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    Stay-at-home orders, school closures and social distancing greatly reduce infections of the coronavirus, but lifting those restrictions after just 30 days will lead to a dramatic infection spike this summer and death tolls that would rival doing nothing, government projections indicate.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/us/coronavirus-updates-usa.html
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    Trump has already signaled that he will start pushing to lift, starting beginning of may. Death toll of doing nothing puts it in the MILLIONS.

    And, even opening up red states, which is his likely tack, will create superspreaders, in cities. Untill the virus finds rural areas. Then, those hospitals are barely equipped for NORMAL traffic.

    That will create a millions death toll, as an October surprise. To ward off the red states destroying the blue cities, there will have to be a war started, where red staters are forbidden from free association and travel.

    It will cause the vulnerables to stay hidden, for at least a year. Or risk death.
     
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    The documents, dated April 9, contain no dates for when shelter-in-places orders were delivered nor do they contain specific dates for when spikes would hit.

    Why do i think the Times is leaving out information on purpose.

    Could be why it states in big read letters "For Official Use Only"
     
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    For official use, usually means it was leaked.
     
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    *Gasp* You dont say. Perhaps only PART of the information was leaked.....Seems the NY Times has a running communication with someone on the task force.
     
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    Well, we can’t get any more proving that “Stay at home” doesn’t work.
    Teen in remote Amazonian tribe tests positive for coronavirus
    Greg Norman

    2 hrs ago
    “...Health Minister Luiz Henrique Mandetta was quoted saying that the case is “worrying” considering the tribe’s isolation from the outside world...”
     
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    Hopefully that had limited circulation and the leaker can be quickly identified and fired...
     
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    Been leaks to the Times from the get go....
     
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    Clearly someone didnt stay home in civilization and infected the tribe And they happen to have a test kit too!

    Unless you believe the virus is magical ?
     
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    I doubt this is the end of the world virus and will follow the ways of other viruses .
     
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    David, being the young ER doctor you are, the best advice I could give you is to stay inside your bunker until Jan 2021 when you can come up for air and restart your "why I hate Trumps" posts.
    BTW, your cap lock key is still broken.
     
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    Not magical, but literally viral. It's a chemical in the air, with RNA encrypted. We're likely to all face it at one point or another. What these current cases are, is a good way for the health system to develop for the future cases and better outcomes.
     
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    The OP's article is from the NY Slimes, no need to repond to the thread.
     
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    Not magical, but much much much more widespread than people think. Only difference is herd immunity. I’m guessing by now over a billion are infected with less than 1/10 of 1% even knowing that they’re a carrier of the virus.

    At years end when the total US death toll for 2020 is no more than ‘19, ‘18 or even the record of 2.813 million back in ‘17 then we’re going to look really stupid spending upwards of $10 trillion to combat a normal every year virus that just had much too much media attention causing hysteria. I’m curious to see the total suicide rate next year from the indirect affects of the Coronavirus, as loss of income, loss of residence, loss of industry, seclusion, mental anguish, domestic violence and the hundreds of other onslaughts this mandatory shutdown is causing. Lets see if next year’s suicides surpasses the 10,000 caused by the economic crash of ‘09.
     
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    The left doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the deaths. It just wants to shut down the economy as long as possible to hurt Trump.
     
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    If you fail to acquire herd immunity quickly, you will only continue to propagate the disease, placing the most vulnerable in more danger.
    Congratulations on the stupidity of the flat curve society!!
     
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    Precisely why local boards of health will not approve testing you unless you show significant illness. Conformational bias.
    They don't want to know the real number of infections or death rate. They don't want us to know they shut us down for nothing
     
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    I love these corona walkers.
    They think like a scene out of a bad zombie movie
     
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    If Trump does as good a job as Obama did with H1N1 we should have a vaccine by September.
     
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    H1N1 was gone before the useless vaccine was available
     
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    Maybe that is why people are coughing on food.People that doubt that saving ERs from flooding is a good idea. I heard some right wingers call for mass infecting, say, by aerial spraying, and let the gonna be dead die, so that the HERD can go about their DESERVED lives.
     
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    That USELESS vaccine gave us a head start, in creating THIS vaccine.
     
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    THEY. being Trump, who didnt want ships unboarded, and after having CREATED a death toll number, has said if he comes in under that number, HE thinks HE has done a miraculous job.
     
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    Then you probably shouldn't have responded...and yet you did

    Oh...

    They do this because they have so few TESTS.

    And why so few? Why did we not obtain the tests that S. Korea used?

    Because then the numbers of infected would be higher and Trump doesn't want that
     
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    Somebody tell me why it is the lefties that are the ones running around with their hair on fire.
    Calm down kids, catching the Chinese virus should be the least of your thoughts.
     
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    Why, what other horrors does Trump have up his sleeve?
     

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