Granted. But its not like I can waterboard Dubya or Cheney and ask them some questions to satisfy my curiosity. (Since it apparently only takes 14 seconds to make a CIA operative capitulate)
My first cousin was assigned to the base that two of the F-16s took off from. They had training ordnance aboard only. He was part of the group of armorers scrambling to get a pallet of Sidewinders to the two Falcons but both were roaring down the runway and taking off before they could get the live ordnance out to the planes. IIRC he said they had four Sidewinders on the pallet he and others were rushing out so they planned to mount one of each on the wingtip rails of the fighters.
**04/28/09 (PilotsFor911Truth.org) - Recently it has been brought to our attention that Air Traffic Control (ATC) transcripts reveal United 93 as being airborne after it's alleged crash. Similar scenarios have been offered with regard to American 77 and American 11 showing an aircraft target continuing past its alleged crash point in the case of American 11, or past the turn-around point in the case of American 77. However, both these issues can be easily explained by "Coast Mode" radar tracking. This is not the case with United 93. Radar Coast Mode activates when a transponder is inoperative (or turned off) and primary radar tracking is lost, which enables ATC to have some sort of reference of the flight after losing radar coverage of the physical aircraft. When an aircraft target enters "Coast Mode", ATC is alerted in the form of a blue tag on the target as well as the tag letters switching to CST. ATC will readily recognize when an aircraft enters "Coast Mode". According to National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) Flight Path Study, United 93 allegedly impacted the ground at 10:03am, September 11, 2001. The following transcript excerpts are provided by the Federal Aviation Administration. It is a conversation between Air Traffic Control System Command Center - East, Management Officers (ntmo-e) and other various facilities. The conversation is as follows in real time:** The rest is here: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/united-93-still-airborne.html
It seems from the transcript between ATC and various other facilities that Flight 93's transponder wasn't always off... **1405 (10:05 a.m.) ntmo-e: ok united ninety three we're now receiving a transponder on and he is at eighty two hundred feet doug: now transponder and he's eighty two-hundred ntmo-e: southeastbound still doug: eighty two hundred feet and now getting a transponder on him ntmo-e: correct doug: ok buddy 10:06 ntmo-e: ok we've lost radar contact with united ninety three doug: all right 10:07 ntmo-e: sixteen south of Johnstown where they lost united ninety three and it was heading turning one four zero heading doug: which will put him to what do you think ntmo-e: uh I guess that put him down coming right just west of Dulles doug: ok ntmo-e: if he stays on that heading of course doug: how we doing John with getting stuff on the ground ntmo-e: uh we're they 're not they 're still going to their original destinations if you look at TSD you'll see that the eastern part of the unites states is thinning out doug: ok ntmo-e: uh you know airports like dulles uh new york there we have no aircraft going into there doug: ok 10:08 ntmo-e: ok uh there is now on the on united ninety three doug: yes ntmo-e: there is now a report of black smoke in the last position I gave you fifteen miles of Johnstown doug: from the airplane or from the ground ntmo-e: uh they're speculating it's from the aircraft doug: ok bud ntmo-e: uh who hit the ground that's what they're speculation it's speculation only doug: ok 10:10 doug: hey john ntmo-e: yes doug: do we have anything on delta nineteen eighty nine is she still heading to cleveland? ntmo-e: delta nineteen eighty nine was returning to Cleveland and they were no longer treating it like a hijacked aircraft doug: ok ntmo-e: I don't know if he's landed ok; the last position of united I'm going to give some coordinates united ninety three doug: yes ntmo-e: three nine five one north zero seven eight four six west doug: zero seven eight four six ntmo-e: west doug: west doug: all right ntmo-e: you got the thirty nine fifty one north doug: ya thirty nine fifty one north zero seven eighty four six west ntmo-e: that's the last known position of united ninety three** Full Transcript Here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/14141827/NYC-B1-NTMO-East-Position-3-Fdr-Transcript
I never said that, nor did Pilots for 9/11 Truth. Here is what they said: **United 93 transponder is recognized by Air Traffic Control as airborne after alleged impact time. Some have made the excuse this is due to Coast Mode tracking. ATC did not recognize any signs of CST (Coast Mode). Further confirmation that this was not any type of "Coast Mode" is that ATC also recognized United 93 reporting an altitude. The only way ATC could observe a reported altitude is if United 93 were squawking Mode C on the transponder, which means altitude reporting capability. Further confirmation comes in the form of latitude and longitude positions reported by ATC. N39 51 - W78 46 were reported as the last known radar position of United 93. It is unclear if the position is reported as Degrees, Minutes or Decimal, however, standard aviation terminology is in Degrees, Minutes. With that said, both positions are well past the alleged United 93 Crash site.**
Of course there was no airplane...it was in a few hundred thousand pieces,strewn about the field in shanksville. duh.
so you think they were called to a plane crash and expected to see a pristine plane parked in a field? omg I cant contain myself, this is hilarious
"This crash was different. There was no wreckage, no bodies, and no noise." - Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller [1] "I was looking for anything that said tail, wing, plane, metal. There was nothing." - Photographer Scott Spangler [2] "I was amazed because it did not, in any way, shape, or form, look like a plane crash." - Patrick Madigan, commander of the Somerset barracks of the Pennsylvania State Police [3] http://911blogger.com/news/2013-02-...911-mysterious-plane-crash-site-without-plane
And none of those he quoted ever denied there was a plane crash. This is typical of 9/11 truth's mendacious tactics-quote mine and then present it in a new context as if it is proof. The Coroner went on to file a report about the body parts. The photographer didn't deny there was a plane crash and went on to photograph the parts. The police knew it was a plane crash and filed all the reports. So 9/11 truth is just perpetuating all this misrepresentation knowingly. They're not interested in the truth, or the facts. Why interfere with the myth building process?
And agent provocateur's add words to people's statements, belittle, slander and insult others. Sounds like you blue!
This video has the latest research on the flight 93 issue. Start watching at the 2:19:29 time mark. September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M
Ad hom noted. You can't deny that what I posted was correct so you attack me. How adult. It is all true. All the reports were written and the evidence included. I'm sorry if the facts interfere with your story telling, but that's the real world for you. Why do 9/11 truth continue to spread these lies if they are genuine about 'seeking the truth'?