Time will cease to move forward in Britain, because of Britain, with or without the EU, if we are to speak the ukip language.
By 2050 more than 80% of the world GDP will be in Asia. They will be the ones to make the rules by then. It's simply a matter of survival and size. Tibet is probably very happy now that it did not succeed in gaining independence in the last decades.
That is an apt comment. There is an argument that Britain will somehow lose it's trade with the EU; this is nothing short of false and you'd have to be living in the middle ages to think that would apply. The fact is that in the modern age there is nothing to stop people from buying and selling across the world. And if anything the EU is making moves to ensure that Britain trades more with the EU which will suppress international trade. And as another poster said we should be doing more with the commonwealth member states which we already have a very loose association with and they are the growing economies which will need our products.
Sooner than you think you will not be in a position to set the terms of trade with India, not even at a level of moderate benefit. Asia is taking over the world and you think about the Commonwealth... India's economy is growing very fast indeed and that can only mean new partners and better deals all the time. You think they are that keen to stick with Britain? The country that once exploited them so badly? If Britain is to set deals independently with a developed, first world India from the 2050s onwards, I'm afraid you are going to be a peripheral partner at best. Even as of today, we can look back and see that your industry, a prime driving force behind any economy isn't doing that great. Take your automotive industry for example. It's been in steep decline since the 1970s with every single year bringing a smaller production line for the British GDP.
No, I simply know the psychological evidence. The authoritarian personality is a right wing construct
You're not making sense. Britain will be dependent on the EU, no matter what. Britain's focus on European trade reflects comparative advantage, plus the nature of intra-industry trade (which, as shown by Krugman and the new trade theorists, leads to trade to similar countries). Trade realities won't be understood by the likes of UKIP. As we all know, right wingers don't do economics! Backward thinking. Is this all you fellows have? Nostalgia for the past
Deindustrialisation is a natural part of a mature economy, reflecting the twin driving forces of income and productivity growth. Britain mind you suffered from a negative form, created by the stupidity of Thatcherism. The financial sector is now key. And what would UKIPers do? Guarantee that Europe's financial centre migrates to Germany.
Correct. I never understand why the Europhile minority say "Britain will lose trade with the EU if it leaves the EU." This is nonsense. Do they really believe that the EU is the only political entity on the planet that allows you to trade with it only if you are a member of it? Britain isn't a member of the US or Australia, but it still trades with those countries. And it will also be the EU that suffers most should it decide not to trade with an independent Britain. After all, Britain biys more from the EU than the EU boys from Britain. But, still, if the Germans want the British to stop buying their BMWs and the French want us to stop buying their wine then that's fine by me. Another fact: Britain's trade with the EU is falling, but it's incerasing to the rest of the world: Proof Britain doesn't need EU: our trade with rest of the world is now booming FRESH proof that Britain can prosper outside the EU was revealed last night with the news that global exports are surging. By: Macer Hall Published: Sat, June 8, 2013 The Express EU membership looks void in the face of rising global exports Sales of British goods to the worlds fast-growing countries rocketed by more than 11 per cent over the last year. At the same time, British exports to the 26 European Union nations fell by 1.5 per cent. Official data showed that half the UKs exports now go outside the EU and trade with China, India and the US is soaring. Tory minister Matthew Hancock said the figures were really extraordinary while anti-Brussels campaigners seized on them as confirmation that Britain would be better off outside the EU. Conservative MP Douglas Carswell said: With every set of trade figures, the case for quitting the EU gets stronger. Europe is the only continent that is not growing, so why are we still tied to this stagnating trade bloc? Tim Aker of the anti-EU campaign group Get Britain Out, said: These figures show the EU is the past. The future is outside the EU with new economies and markets crying out for our exports. Only outside the EU can we negotiate trade deals to suit our national interest. The longer we stay in the EU, the longer we will be exposed to the eurozone crisis. Businesses are starting to look beyond the EU, its high time politicians did too. Euro MP William Dartmouth, the UK Independence Partys trade spokesman, said: These figures underline the reality. Britain cannot afford to remain shackled to the EU. For prosperity, for jobs and for our future, we must get out. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/40...r-trade-with-rest-of-the-world-is-now-booming
UK exports to India increase 20pc on back of trade push Vince Cable, the Business Secretary, has started a four-day trade visit with 25 British companies to look at business opportunities in fast-growing regional cites across India British companies have responded to the government’s drive to double exports to India with a 20pc jump in shipments so far this year. Vince Cable, the Business Secretary, will highlight the performance on Monday, at the start of a four-day trade visit with 25 British companies to look at business opportunities in fast-growing regional cites across India. The mission is the fourth headed by Mr Cable since he was effectively given responsibility by David Cameron to double Britain’s trade with India by 2015. “We have always had a special relationship between our countries and I am keen to push business collaboration much further,” said Mr Cable. The Prime Minister is understood to feel that the presence of senior government ministers at the head of trade delegations will carry more weight and encourage more UK companies to give a higher priority to expanding business with emerging countries. Last week, Mr Cameron headed Britain’s biggest ever business delegation to China and came back with trade and investment deals estimated to be worth close to £6bn. He feels India is one of the countries neglected by UK companies despite deep historical ties. Britain remains the biggest European investor in India. But – with 1,000 companies in Britain, led by Tata, the Jaguar Land Rover parent – Indian investment here is more than in the rest of Europe combined. Mr Cable will announce a number of small-scale agreements during his visit and wants to see the UK India Business Council do more to help small to medium-sized enterprises make faster trade progress. He will announce a $1m (£612,000) investment in Scotland by Zomato, an online and mobile search business, and congratulate Dynamatics Technologies on winning orders worth $250m for its British plant over the last five years. Mr Cable will discuss plans with his Indian counterparts for developing existing partnerships to advance engineering skills and sign a new £180m deal underwritten by UK Export Finance to help Reliance Industries place up to 30 service and equipment contracts with UK companies for its oil refineries. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ndia-increase-20pc-on-back-of-trade-push.html You and your Eurotron pals need to do some research before posting. Britain's automotive industry is booming, and Britain is about to overtake France as Europe's third biggest car manufacturer behind Germany and Spain: British carmakers overtake French for first time in 40 years as output hits record high Around 1.55 million cars were built in 2013, up from 1.47million in 2012 In France, production expected to slip to 1.54million for last year By 2017, Britain is expected to hit a new production record - 1.92million cars By Ray Massey 8 January 2014 Daily Mail Britain is poised to overtake ailing rival France in car production as UK motor manufacturing heads towards a new record high. Strong and rising sales of British-built cars - both at home and abroad - mean France is set to slip from third place in the European production league-table - behind Germany and Spain - to be replaced by Britain. Figures to be released later this month are expected to show UK car production nudging ahead of France with around 1.55million cars built in 2013. Pushing ahead: Figures to be released later this month are expected to show 1.55million cars were built in the UK in 2013 This would be up from 1.47 million in 2012 and 1.35million in 2011. And it is predicted to hit a new record of nearly 2 million within three years. By contrast France’s car production is expected to slip to around 1.54million cars for 2013 - down from 1.66million in 2012 and 1.88 million in 2011. More...40% of Brits expect the economy to improve this year as optimism hits a record high Tories plotting 50p rise in minimum wage to counter image as 'posh boys' out of touch with low paid workers France’s ailing economy - exacerbated by problems with the Euro - and overcapacity under the current socialist Government are cited as key reasons for its declining car sales. A spokesman for Britain’s Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) said: ‘We’re currently neck and neck with France. ‘But Britain’s car production is on an upward trend. France’s is on a downward trend. We’re about to cross. It could well be that the new figures will show that 2013 is the year in which we overtake them.’ Germany is on track for 5.45m cars in 2013 with Spain reaching 1.76m. But recent big investments by car-makers in Britain are aimed at boosting production even further, said the SMMT. So by 2017 Britain is expected to hit a new record production level exceeding the 1.92million cars built in 1972 during the highpoint of the UK car industry - but also a period blighted by strikes, industrial unrest and union militancy. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-output-hits-record-high.html#ixzz32FrOvDA5 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
There are very few British car makers. So what happens if Britain leaves the EU? Given the importance of the EU market, time to relocate. Well done for pointing out that UKIP will do their utmost to harm the common man
Obviously even though there are few makers we are making more than the French. What happens if we left the EU - now I don't support doing so I am pretty damned sure that EU car manufacturers would want to continue exporting to the UK so we would hace a free trade in Cars. The UK is far too important a market for EU countries to (*)(*)(*)(*) about with.
They aren't British car firms mind you and they have no loyalty to Britain. They're here because of productive workers twinned with relatively low wages. However, add in the extra costs associated with not being part of the EU (and there are costs, even with a free trade area) and see them scarper! We would lose industry, with car manufacturers shifting to continental europe production. UKIP would kick the working man in the knackers. Nature of right wing grunt! Brits would simply be buying more cars made abroad
Already said. Most of these companies are foreign owned. Britain leaves the EU? Those companies jump ship. End result? Fewer cars produced in the UK and more imported.
You'd have to assume business irrationality to suggest otherwise. Never know if UKIP will try that mind you. Right wingers don't do economics
That would be why the economy does better under right wing governments rather than left wing ones then. I suppose you think Venezuala is booming. The left (*)(*)(*)(*)s economies and the right builds them. Labur always eaves the country worse off than it finds it. The tories then have to sort the mess out
We've had two major depressions in my lifetime, both generated by right wing economics. You must have a very short memory
What utter nonsense. The last depression was started by the absurd American demand that banks lend money to people who were unable to properly service the debt because certain powerfull ethnic groups in the USA complained that their members couldn;t get mortgages hence freddie mac and Fannie Mae giving hundreds of thousands of Junk Mortgages to suit a leftist agenda. try again Your idiot Chavez squandered Venezualas oilwealth during a boom and the country is still a violent (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up hell hole.
Just reality (not a right winger's best chum mind you!). Thatcher engineered arguably our worse recession with the folly of monetarism. And the current crisis reflects hegemony of the financial class, itself delivered through neo-liberalism. The link with both? The stupidity of 'free market economics', something UKIPers embace (often without knowing it as they're too busy making vacuous anti-Romanian comments)
It was Thatcher who saved this country from the economic disaster it was heading towards as a result of the Left-wing, socialist economic policies of the Seventies.
That doesn't take away from the fact that Britain's automotive industry is booming and the fact that Britain is home to Europe's most efficient car plants. More scaremongering drivel that will be proven to be wrong when we leave the EU, just like that scaremongering drivel you eurotrons subjected the British to when they decided not to adopt the Euro that was also proven to be wildly off the mark.
