Ukrainian patriots killed 3 terrorists, Putin "has expressed outrage". Time to put Ru

how a child form a mother stomach can do it? you are a terrible person if you really think that this was child murderer and convicted war criminal (WHO ADMITTED THAT HE DID KILL MOTHER WITH A CHILD) only one fault ..."His only fault was that he was still alive when politicians decided to depict soviet warriors as rapists and killers."

 

Are you able to read? Did I tell that I think that this is a crime? Did you read it correctly? Sure you can understand it? Of course a murder of a pregnant woman is a crime no matter what. This was a war. And the guys were not from regular troops. They were living a terrorist lives under occupation of nazists. Among bandits and Bandera-type squadrons of killers. So I understand why the guys from a division of Kononov performed such a thing. They wanted a revenge. And revenge is always taken at a hiigh percentage. The one who brings vengence never takes an eye in exchange of his eye taken. He usually takes both or the life itself. This is a crime. Still. No argument can be done. But Kononov was not the one who ordered to kill a pregnant woman. He ordered to punish\to kill those who are guilty in death of his partisan comrades. He was not in the position of shoeing the mercy. It should have been done by the guys who eventually threw a poor woman into fire.

The fault of Kononov depended on the definition of his status. Latvia and Lithuania by charging Kononov pushed the definition that kononok-like were criminals who had no right to fight with nazists that occupied republics of USSR and killed 10 mln people. Civilian people. According to human rights european court and latvian government there was no right for soviet people to rise and to act against nazists. Let it remain at the fate of their kids and kids of their kids. I will continue to worship the generation of soviets that saved the world not only from nazist propaganda but also from nazist war machine. And if any of European court tells otherwise I would better have them kissing me a little bit under my back, because such a court has nothing to do with the law and justiness.

 

lies, in the interview to a Latvian newspaper he said yes i did it, otherwise she´d born give birth to a fascist. such a sick buster, hell took him well . what do you think about nationality of victims and to which "nazi " organization did they belong?

 

I don't believe latvian newspapers. Killing pregnant women with a terrorising aims is a crime. No matter what. Since the people killed were guilty in collaboration with facsists and acted against partisans, against the warriors. The particiation of those who betrayed partisans to nazist is the lowest one. They were never paid regularly. Perhaps they have their 30 silver coins from time to time once they betray some really good people. But being a lowest and pitiest creature doesn't mean that they don't have their share of responsibility for nazist crimes. What they deserve is of course death. Traitors don't have another destiny but Judas'...

According to orthodox faith all the warriors defenders go to heavens. And all those who collaborated with the enemies of the country go to hell. So basically Kononov is where Alexander Nevsky and Fedor Ushakov. And those who ordered and executed information campaign against soviet partisans will dfinetley have a master class from Goebells in what they themselves made them after death. If facsists are in heavens and Kononov is in hell I don't agree to go to such heavens. I would choose hell with the people that I owe. And you have also made your choice, litiwin. You can only kill and be killed. So basically the personal relationship of ours is settled. We are enemies. You became an enemy of mine, of my people and my country, my state. I would never join your side. But here I don't oppose you personally. I oppose the lies you say. I oppose your pitiful propaganda, trying to save those foreigners which can also join your side thinking that they are joining not traitors but true russians...

 

who said it, evidence? how a pregnant women with the huge stomach can be an legitimize target?
so child , and women murders in your world are warriors ,...ok...i feel sorry for you , and your mother , something is very wrong in your program

 

There was the decision of Kononov's commanders as far as I know. Anyway the trial was not about the pregnant woman's fault. It was about Kononov.

Being pregnant is not cleaning a person of his ability to make crimes and to take the responsibility for them. US has lots of pregnant women in jail. Pregnancy is a basis for a mercyful verdict or better conditions of punishment. But a pregnant woman still remains a legitimate target of justice.

Propaganda uses pregnant women and rapes as a cultural and not the law basis to accuse the warriors of being criminals and criminals to be the warriors. This is the only thing matters. If a person sees that someone killed a pregnant woman than the rage stops him of remaning justy. This is exactly what happened in the case.

If a girl of 18, being a drug-addict and alcoholic kills your old mother and all your kids to get some of their pocket money and pension to get a doze and while she lies in the dirt some of her male-friends make her pregnant - will you go to police and charge this pregnant woman of murder? If you do than note that being a drug-addict and alcoholic is also a propaganda and a person is not prosecuted for being good or bad. It's only crime and law that matters. For the time of Great Patriotic War in USSR there were very strict laws. Like in every other country. But it doesn't give a chance for Goebbels-propaganda spreaders to depict partisans and warriors as thugs and killers. I am sure that all those who were involved into this dirty and illegal trial of Vasily Kononov will be charged for lie-spreading. Wehther it happens this year or next century - I don't know. But the truth is that they are the criminals. Not Vasily Kononov.

 

i asked about evidences , decision of higher "commanders" is not evidences , its an order

i see my friend, you are unfamiliar with Stalin´s criminal code ... which was "prohibiting the execution of pregnant women"

 

An order means that the responsibility is on the commander and not at the executionner

Never heard of it.

 

even your military legislation includes term "criminal order" , anyway, many Nazi criminals have used unsuccessfully the same words in order to avoid punishment....

google it

ps

 

The sooner Putin sends in his tanks to "pacify" the Russian speaking areas he intends to absorb,
or see with some degree of independence from the government by putsch in Kiev that outlawed the
Russian language - -
The Sooner The Better.

It is just a matter of getting it done. And the longer is festers, the more it will cost the tax payer.
Putin's tanks now would be like lancing a boil. It will lead to resolution and less pain after the initial shock.



Moi
Welcome Back Litwin, Where were you?

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Unless its an unlawful order.

 

Oh you mean these torch bearing Nazis?


[video=youtube;0GvIj8MGo4U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GvIj8MGo4U[/video]


Oops, my mistake! You meant the torch bearing Nazis honoring Bandera:


[video=youtube;wnUdc2fD9pg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnUdc2fD9pg[/video]




In 2010 and 2011, Bandera was named an honorary citizen of a number of western Ukrainian cities, including Nadvirna, Khust, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv, Zhovkva, Dubliany, and Rava-Ruska.

I wonder how the 500,000 dead Poles, Russians and Jews feel about it?

"...Every major scholarly work–a prime example is the papers of Pers Anders Rudling–show that the Banderas murdered 500,000 people without even the pretext of an apology. They have lied and tried to change history in an effort to make Stepan Bandera and the Waffen SS heroes of the Great War. Among other tactics, they have tried to petition the UN to reclassify Bandera and take his name off the UN’s list of leading Nazi collaborators and perpetrators of genocide. Legitimizing these men would irrevocably change the history of the Great War..."

"...What separates Germany from the Bandera Nationalists in Ukraine is that Germany has taken responsibility for the atrocities they committed. Until recent events, they could say believably, “Never Again.” Contrast this to Lviv, Ukraine, where surviving members of the WW2 Galician SS, willing participants in genocide, still parade on holidays, proudly displaying medals given them by the German Third Reich..."


http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukrain...andera-and-the-legacy-of-world-war-ii/5373773

 

For Russia and Ukraine!

 

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leave Crimea and Donbas first

 

It is unfortunate the term Nazi is used by both those who consider themselves Nazi
and those that would derogatorily label others.

I am a solo English speaker. A minor tad of German, French, Spanish but - not beyond a word or three.
Still, this is an English language Board, ain't it ?
Please. Translate those ferign words.


Gracias.
That's Californian for Thank You.




Moi
Beware when the Germans start uploading to each other in Deutsch

No / Non
The Baltics = Three -s ​

 

sooner you will start to pay reparations from your pensions to Christians of the OE , except so-called Greeks (Christian turks), who were your PIMPS the whole history of the OE

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrier_troops#Barrier_troops_in_the_Red_Army

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+1....

 

What do the Greeks have to do with this, I'm not Greek I'm a third generation American born and bred. Now you can insult my country all you want, I'm up to it...believe me.

 

meanwhile Russian soldiers still honor and guard Stalin's tomb.

Stalin was a million times worse than Bandera, and killed millions more people.

 

There is not going to be an election, how can there be when those who represent the East and South are being beaten and threatened? And even if they weren't threatened and happened to come into power, the U.S. will have another coup in Kiev, so what's the point? Since it's obvious the Western half hates the Eastern half, then why don't they just split the country in half. Can't they face up to it, or is it because the people of Lviv want to grab all of Ukraine? Good luck, they're going to need it.

 

Yeah, but he killed them equally, not just the 'untermenschen'.

 

like that makes it any better.

Im sure the victims of Stalin's murderous tyranny feel better knowing they weren't killed for their race.

 

And Japanese visit the shrine to honor their Imperialist, WW2 dead.

So What ?


Moi

No / Non ​