UN Says Minors Can Consent to Sex!

"Sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law," several U.N.-backed organizations claimed in a March report that advocates decriminalizing these acts as part of a "human rights-based approach" to laws governing sexual relations.

Seriously, what are we going to hear next?

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/un-says-minors-can-consent-to-sex/

 

It's the UN ffs they know not of what they speak. Calm down and don't panic.

 

They don't have a tremendous amount of influence?

 

So if two 15-year olds have sex that they agree they both wanted, are they both rapists? I think there's two things to consider here. First, it's capacity. Do they understand the act and what consenting to it fully implies in terms of risks and benefits? Second, there's concern about a power dynamic. A young person may claim consent, but if it was in the context of somebody who had power over them through authority or just experience, it can call true consent into question. All of these things are going to vary by the persons involved and the situation. People don't wake up on their 18th birthday and suddenly have a dramatically increased capacity for consent in reality, despite the law, but this fact should not be twisted to help people exploit others, either.

 

I wouldn't look for the UN to save me if some despot's army suddenly took over my town.

 

Ya, that's what I'd like to assume they're talking about. But the wording they used does not preclude sex between a minor and an adult. And frankly, I have trouble believing the UN missed something that obvious on accident...

 

Yeah but that's not what they claim to be about.

 

Where does the UN report talk about this?

 

You know what's so so ironic?

These same people are all for younger people to be able to have the right to have casual sex, but at the same time have been against laws allowing girls under the age of 18 to marry.

Someone cynical would almost think they wanted teens to have lots of sex with random different people outside of marriage.

Guess that's progressivism...

 

Wisconsin (R)adicals say 14-year-olds can serve alcohol to adults in bars.

What could go wrong?

 

The point was that they are correct in the sense that there are cases where one under 18 could consent to sex, such as mature 15 year olds with mature 15 year olds. So unless you believe 15 year olds having sex is inherently rape, the real potential concern is power dynamics compromising consent rather than the ability to consent by the ethics definition.

 

Where in the Western world are 15 year olds prosecuted for having sex for eachother?

 

Disgusting.

 

As expected FAKE NEWS. Below is a link breaking down the false claims posted above.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-united-nations-report-consent-772818741019

Of particular note is the following section: '

If the age of consent in a jurisdiction is set at 18, say, or 17, but in that jurisdiction, you know, it’s not uncommon for high school juniors to have sexually intimate relationships with high school freshmen, then you can run into real opportunities for enforcement bias or just to turn what are really on their face consensual sexual relationships into acts of illegality,”

To clarify the article that if two people below the age of consent engage in consensual sex the relevant law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them,'.

The UN is NOT advocating for the right of adults to have sex with children.

 

The point is that the capacity for consent is there and implicitly acknowledged, so it not being prosecuted supports my point.

In terms of the point of what the UN says, as #Monash said I think the idea is that high school seniors/juniors having sex with high school freshman isn’t usually actual rape and prosecuting such seniors isn’t just. I recall some states in the us have used “Romeo and Juliet” clauses to allow sex with a difference of 3 or 4 years to reduce ridiculous prosecutions.

 

The US. You can can look the cases up yourself.

 

Do two people below the age of consent not already have the right to engage in consensual sex?

 

So they were sent to juvie?

 

if two 14-year-olds have sex, they both consent, yes, they consented - now you can say they did not consent and both are rapists, but I say they consented if they consented

can you make it a crime to have consensual sex underage, sure, but it's still consensual sex

 

Sex is not sex, there are different types of sex.
Was it sex within a committed long-term relationship? Or was it total sleaze?

I think we can and should draw some distinguishment between the two.

 

Hi, chris155au.

OMG!!! Minors having sex? Who ever heard of such a thing? What's this world coming to? It's all the fault of those liberals/right wingers/commies/Nazis!

Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . 'n chaste.

 

there is consensual sex and unconsensual sex, there is a huge difference between the two

there is also illegal sex and legal sex and yes, consensual sex can be illegal in some circumstances, such as an adult having sex with a minor

 

Every U.S. state and jurisdiction agrees with this. It's written everywhere in U.S. law. Where are you from?

 

No.

This is how unconstitutional and horrible laws are written.

 

What does this have to do with the UN report?