Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

I agree that if a law officer is telling you to stop and you don't stop, then getting shot is justified. Play stupid game, win stupid prizes.

However, I think that "violent mob" and "sedition" are excessive terms given what we've seen. She was unarmed as were most of the people who entered the Capitol. Some appeared to be invited in by officers at one of the entrances. (That does not excuse crawling through a broken window, like Babbitt did.)

If there was planned violence and sedition, more people in the crowd would have been armed with more than flagpoles. Very few people in the crowd were actually intent on insurrection.

Tens of thousands of protesters, one hundred or so in the Capitol (some thinking they were welcome), and six gun arrests so far.

This independent photo journalist of one of a few who was on the scene, including taking videos of events inside the building. He says that he only spoke with a couple of "extremist" people who said they intended an insurrection and that they learned "direct action" insurrection techniques from studying and appropriating the Antifa tactics. He is working with other independent journos who were present to piece together the total story.

https://twitter.com/JLeeQuinn

 

"Violent mob" isn't excessive. They were a violent mob. They injured several officers. They beat one to death with a fire extinguisher. They were chanting for Pence's death. I'm not saying that EVERYONE who was there was violent. The ones who broke into the Capitol, however, were. She was trying to break into a barricaded room. She was part of a mob that had been chanting for Pence's death. That's the topic.

 

Sad story, this one. A brief look at her social media shows that she was deep down the rabbit hole. It takes a lot to drive a person towards terrorism. Shame no one saw the signs or tried to help.

As for the shooting, unless investigations yield some misconduct that’s not readily apparent in the video, it was a good shoot. Terrorist killed in the act. Not much more to say.

 

Andy Ngo did identify one man who is a known BLM activist, but most of the independent journalists who were actually on the scene agree that most of the protesters and the few violent ones were either right-wing anti-government anarchists or Trump supporters.

Antifa trained with and appropriated the "direct action" tactics from terrorists overseas. A couple of extremists who were Trump supporters told an independent reporter that they studied and appropriated the "direct action" tactics from watching the Antifa videos. They dressed in black bloc to look like Antifa.

This video is a conversation with host Dave Rubin and ground report Elija Schaffer (who recorded events inside the building, employed by The Blaze), Karlyn Borysenko (who was on the grounds with protester away from the building; She left the Democrat Party and became a WalkAway activist last year), and Michael Malice (not present last Wednesday).




This video is a conversation with host Brett Weinstein and independent Jeremy Lee Quinn who was on the scene.



We definitely get a more objective and true perspective from some of these independent journalists than from mega-corporate Left State Media, but some of the Right State Media can also toss out some fake propaganda. After having absorbed a lot of reports, I think the outlets reporting that "Antifa did it," are throwing spin and not truth. Consumer of "news" beware.

 

The window she was crawling through had already been broken. I've already said she was justifiably shot, even though she was unarmed.

"Violent mob" is an extreme media narrative and mostly spin. A few people were violent and did intend to cause destruction and "terror". A few people taking advantage of hiding under the cloak and blending in with a large crowd is not a "mob". The violent few studied "direct action" insurrection techniques.

Most of the people arrested so far have been charged with breaking curfew. Only a minority of arrestees have been charged with more serious crimes/charges.

 

There was a mob of people chanting for Pence's death. They weren't "blending in" at that point. That was the mob that broke in. That was the mob she was a part of.

 

Someone asked Lenin once why he didn't associate with intellectuals, but only with criminals. He said it's because the criminals will bring about the revolution. Well as we can see, criminality is alive and well now in Washington.

The latest is that Hunter Biden will be presented as a down and out artist, and not someone who was paid $75,000 a month by Burisma, and who was supporting the whole family through his father's connections in Ukraine and China.

"...Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators..." Alexandr Solzhenitsyn

 

maybe Qds

 

This was not a well-coordinated strategic attack as the Left State Media spins. If the "Hang Pence" crowd had any actual plan, they would have been in a different building. They were as far away from Mike Pence as they possibly could have been. They would have been armed.

Just because the political activists who pose as mainstream journalists repeatedly say "mob", and you repeat their spin and say "mob", does not mean that a few people make a "mob".

I doubt the girl had any dangerous intentions and seriously doubt that she would harm Pence, much less hang him, if she had happened to run into him face-to-face.

 

Well I guess you didn't watch the Japanese reporter's videos, or you would have noticed the Antifa members who had broken the window and who were trying to direct the others inside. Well I had seen a video that you're not going to find on Youtube, where the protesters were screaming Antifa and trying to stop them from breaking the window.

 

I agree that the terrorists were not well-coordinated. I never claimed the violent mob was full geniuses.

Yes. There was a violent mob. No honest person can deny that.

She was a part of a mob chanting for Pence's death. She was trying to break into a barricaded area. Those are the facts. Please come to terms with them. Facts won't go away just because you don't like them.

 

I'm not interested in fringe conspiracy theories. Fringe conspiracy theories are what got people killed on the 6th.

 

Lenin is smiling up from hell right now. He couldn't have imagined a more sophisticated Collective Organizer than today's mega-corp Left Stream Media arm of the Democrat Party. People are buying the propaganda and assisting in giving the most wealthy, powerful politicos, academics, and monopolies the keys to win the Global Monopoly Game and enslave us all. Finally, their quest for unstoppable and complete totalitarian power is nigh with assistance from the blind.

 

Trolling ? This woman was part of a mob that knocked down doors and attacked police. She was warned numerously. thats laughable. Guess you never served in the military or police. You are OBLIGATED to use deadly force which may include a firearm when those you protect are put at risk for life or limb. Some of the looters were already found to have firearms.


“ when the looting starts, the shooting begins. “ Words of your hero Trump, and his followers. .

 

wow, the apologizing for these horrid creatures by denialists is off the charts lol
it was a mob of insane killers who were vanguarded thru the bicycle racks by off-duty pigs waving their badges in the minimal amount of guards faces to back them off. many are now under arrest for entering the building designated. they had bombs and the only thing not seen were bazookas and tanks.
mob doesn't begin to describe them. new words will need to be coined to explain these creatures.
she came armed with a stick to a gunfight, maybe to use as a pike to parade a victims head on and be a hero to zeros.

 

Do you have any "new" points, or are you just going to repeat those over and over? I understood your opinion the first time.

People who entered the building had appropriated the chant "Whose House? Our House!" from the BLM chant "Whose streets? Our streets!" The common thinking with both groups is that anything which taxpayers fund is public property and any member of the public has a right to be on the property "we the people" paid for at any time. That is completely incorrect and wrong thinking, of course, but that is what the Left and Right populist protesters are told is the "truth".

Several journalists who were present at the event agree that once these Trump supporters were actually inside the building they didn't seem to have any specific plan after that and thought the "end game" was just to get in "their house". No violent plans for the vast majority of them. Did entering the building constitute a crime? Yes, but the majority of those who entered were simply peacefully escorted back out.

That only leaves the few who were serious about insurrection and those who idiotically decided it was a good idea to steal property (loot the building) while they were their.

But of course, Left State Media is fanning the flames of civil war while Big Tech silences people. De-escalation through reasonable conversation by cooler heads is what is needed right now, but that is obviously not what the incoming administration has planned for America. They can't achieve and maintain totalitarian control unless the people are fighting, so they are escalating the division.

 

Make excuses for terrorists all you want. I'm done trying to get you to address reality.

 

"Mob of insane killers" is what CNN/MSNBC et.al. started narrating from the comfort of their desks within one hour (out of 5 hours) of the protesters breaking through the barriers. Not one of those high-paycheck "journalists" was at the scene investigating what was actually going on before they started writing the cherry-picked propaganda spin to feed the obedient public.

We're sunk as a country. Freedom and truth were nice while they lasted.

 

The terrorists at the Capitol did their best to kill freedom and truth, but they failed.

 

There is Left "reality". There is Right "reality". There is Independent "reality" for those who seek objective facts before forming a set-in-stone opinion of "reality".

 

Haha. Doh.

 

It depends if the officer had a way to escape the situation. If so, and he had no one to protect, he should have just exited the situation and forfeited the territory to the mob.

After all, despite the rhetoric, there was no danger to the government being overthrown. Everyone knows the electoral vote counts. They weren't interrupting the actual counting or determining of the vote counts. They were interrupting a basically symbolic gesture that if not performed at that minute, represented no danger to the Republic.

 

As with being pregnant, one is or isn't. This, luckily, was stupid-level sedition, but it was/is sedition. Every citizen of voting age can vote every two years to replace Representatives. That is the legal way to revolution. The South didn't like trying to use the slow and probably unsuccessful path of Constitutional change to preserve their system, so they chose sedition and treason. The Union could not abide that then and should not now.

 

Congress members were trapped in there, they saw the shooting, had the terrorist broke through that door, who knows how many would have been harmed or died

Trump lied to them and told them this was not just a symbolic gesture, that if they stopped it, he would be President for 4 more years

 

That's what they say, but I haven't seen anyone go into detail of the layout showing how there was no way out except through the mob.