Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    No it's not, it's just him not expressing "any kind of dismay over the speech of his lawyer."

    "Stop the steal" was a mostly peaceful protest.

    I'm bringing things up which I don't NEED to prove! Namely, this: It's a plain and simple FACT that we DO NOT in fact know what he meant by FIGHT!
     
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    So you agree he never expressed any kind of dismay over the lawyer's speech he paid for, to go and be violent with stopping the so called steal.

    irrelevant to your point of "Trump nor his lawyer told them to break into the Capitol!"... since it remains that the protest was called "stop the steal" and that supposedly steal was happening in the Capitol. And he told his followers to prevent that by fight like hell or else lose your country, and paid a gimp to stop that steal by a trial by combat.

    you can't prove your point!
     
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    Of course. That does not mean that Trump agreed with what his lawyer said. Simple!

    What does the name "stop the steal" have to do with the attack on the Capitol?

    And what's the problem with that?

    Are you saying that his lawyer HIMSELF attempted to 'stop the steal' by a 'trial by combat?' Are you sure that he didn't just say the words "trial by combat?"

    There's nothing to prove! Do you know what he meant by "FIGHT?"
     
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    Of course it does. Donald is free to claim it doesn't support his values .... but he hasn't done so. Simple.

    You're replaying to the "supposedly steal was happening in the Capitol."

    He motivated his followers to be violent with stopping the so called steal in the Capitol.

    Are you not aware he held a speech?

    Drop it or prove it.
     
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    Correct. That does not mean that Trump agreed with what his lawyer said. Simple!

    Yes, so Trump's plan was to "STOP the steal" by getting his supporters to peacefully protesting. He failed miserably.

    How the hell did he motivate them to be VIOLENT? By specifically telling them to protect PEACEFULLY during the speech? :roflol:

    You said that Trump paid his lawyer to "stop that steal by a trial by combat." Do you stand by that total nonsense?

    You do not know what Trump meant by "FIGHT!" Simple! :roflol:
     
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    It does, since he is paid him to hold that speech.

    You're dishonestly ignoring he told them to fight like hell and paid a gimp to tell the same people to have a trial by combat.
    And they failed stopping the so called "steal" of his presidency.

    You're dishonestly ignoring he told them to fight like hell and paid a gimp to tell the same people to have a trial by combat.

    It's a historic fact that he paid his lawyer to say that.
     
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    That does not mean that Trump agreed with what his lawyer said. Simple!

    You're dishonestly ignoring he told them to peacefully protest! You're also ignoring that fact that you do not know what Trump meant by "FIGHT!":roflol:

    Correct. They also went against what Trump wanted, which was a peaceful protest.

    No, it's a historic fact that his lawyer said it and that Trump paid his lawyer to speak.
     
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    Donald paid, so he agreed that the job was done to his satisfaction. :roflol:
    I've not ignored it. I dropped this, since you can't prove your point. I said I would.
    They still complied to fight like hell and trial by combat.... the thing he blasted to his fascist thugs.
     
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    How do you know that Trump paid him AFTER the speech? How do you even know that there was a specific transaction just for the speech? Trump would have been paying his lawyer a regular retainer for all of his work on the election legal challenges. The speech could have just been something that his lawyer did as part of all of that!

    I'm saying that YOU do not know what Trump meant by "FIGHT!"

    You're assuming that Trump meant fight PHYSICALLY like hell.
     
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    Because Trump only had a falling out on Giuliani about his legal fees. Not about him giving a speech.

    I already replied to this that it's your point that you can't prove.
    You are also childishly ignoring it's your point too
     
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    What falling out?

    I didn't make any point. It's YOU who is making the baseless point that Trump meant fight PHYSICALLY like hell!

    What's my point too?
     
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    Not relevant to the point that Giuliani got paid for the speech.
    It remains so that Donald yelled at his fascist supports to fight like hell, and paid a guy that yelled to those same people to have a trial by combat, to stop that so called stealing of the presidency that was happening in the Capitol. Hence that group by the 100's and 100's violently attacked the Capitol and beat the officers who stood in their way. A person who refused to back off got subsequently executed over it. Donald got blood on his hands. And you're his champion.

    Nope. It was you who made claims about what Donald meant or didn't mean or that we don't know what he means. And you can't prove nothing about it. So I'm dropping it.
     
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    Either you think that you know what he meant or you don't! Simple!

    You're dishonestly ignoring he told them to peacefully protest!
     
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    You're brining up a point, and so the burden to prove that point is on you. Simple.

    He also told them to be violent, and they were... resulting in an execution. That makes Donald having blood on it's hands. And you're his champion on this.
     
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    It's YOUR point that he meant PHYSICALLY fight!

    QUOTE HIM telling them to be violent! You won't be able to! :roflol:

    Whose execution?
     
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    Go source this. :roflol:

    I'd fight. So I'd fight, they'd fight, I'd fight, they'd fight. Pop pop. And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

    that female fascist.
     
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    My source? Uh, that would be YOU constantly implying that Trump meant PHYSICALLY fight!

    WTF? Are you quoting Trump?

    QUOTE HIM telling them to be violent! You won't be able to! :roflol:
     
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    I asked for a source, and I am not seeing a source

    That is what he said. ... including the "pop pop".

    I did, and you went WTF.
     
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    This is all so interesting.
     
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    A source for what? What do you think I'm claiming? Again, my source is YOU constantly implying that Trump meant PHYSICALLY fight!

    Link to a source which says "pop pop!"

    Where is "violent" mentioned in the quote?
     
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    https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/9663...key-part-of-impeachment-trial?t=1639735400376

    Good to know you actually never bothered to look up what he said.

    you claimed "It's YOUR point that he meant PHYSICALLY fight!".
    Not seeing a link. So I guess you're lying about me. tss tss

    You don't even know what Trump even said at all.

    If your neighbor is telling you (s)he is going to fight you and makes the sound "pop pop", you wouldn't consider it a threat since the word "violent" hasn't been mentioned? Is that what you are going with? :roflol:
     
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    I actually Googled "Trump january 6 fight like hell pop pop" and got no results! But you got one! Great!

    You haven't denied that you think he meant PHYSICALLY fight!

    I know that he told them to "FIGHT" and to be "PEACEFUL!"

    How do you interpret "pop pop?"
     
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    So there you go.

    So what.

    Not seeing how you can see this as one and the same, regarding the context.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pop a cap
    https://english.stackexchange.com/q...-other-than-shoot-someone-in-the-19th-century
    http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/pop-a-cap
    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/pop+a+cap+in+yo+ass
     
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    So you haven't denied that you think he meant PHYSICALLY fight, so why the hell are you asking for a "LINK?" A link to what?

    In the exact same way that black people and women have FOUGHT for their rights!

    When the hell did Trump talk about popping a "CAP?"
     
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    You need to prove your own point.

    You are deflecting.

    You asked me to interpret "pop" and so I did. The pop refers to gunfire.
    The cap would be a bullet.
     

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