Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

You haven't denied that you think he meant PHYSICALLY fight! Simple!

No, I'm simply saying that that black people and women have FOUGHT for their rights PEACEFULLY! You obviously agree!

Where did Trump say "CAP?"

 

I don't need to deny. You need to prove your own point.

You are deflecting.

Quote where I say he did.

 

My point is that there is ZERO evidence that Trump meant PHYSICALLY fight! Simple!

You just have a BLATANT double standard. You know that black people and women have FOUGHT for their rights PEACEFULLY but then when Trump says "FIGHT" you think that he can only mean PHYSICALLY fight!

So then why the hell are you talking about "cap" if Trump didn't say it?

 

You asked me "QUOTE HIM telling them to be violent! You won't be able to!"
And I replied to that in post 1966. I don't see how you can fight and do "pop pop" without being physical.

deflecting

I didn't You asked me to explain "pop pop" and I did. You responded with "When the hell did Trump talk about popping a "CAP?" and so you brought cap up. Why are you doing that?

 

It was a very big speech and Trump talks alot of crap. "Pop pop" is just totally meaningless. Who the hell knows what he meant by that crap.

It's VERY simple! Trump told them to be PEACEFUL! But you wish to ignore that part of his speech. I wonder why!

No I did not bring up "cap." In post 1973 you cited four links each which contained the word "cap." Trump did not saying anything about "popping a cap."

 

There is nothing justified about the killing of that woman. While she shouldn't have been there, she sure as hell didn’t deserve a bullet in the neck for it either. Not unless she was wielding a gun or some sort of melee weapon swinging it around. Why would the “officer” shoot a woman and not a male? Someone who might actually pose a real threat? Makes no sense. Considering how crooked and rotten our government is, nothing will be done about it. I wouldn’t be shocked at all if the US government cut that “officer” a check for several million and told him to change his name and disappear from the public eye.

 

We already discussed what pop pop means. It's not relevant that you got no clue.

I don't ignore that. I do not care that he gave mixed signals. You're ignoring he told them to go fight all the time, and had paid his lawyer to tell them to go have a trial by combat.... and so they gave that a try. There is no doubt about that. And afterwards he expressed his love to them. While you're his champion. You wouldn't be like that if it was some Imam telling his followers to fight like hell, and subsequently get them marching towards the capitol. It's all so shallow what you support.

They also contained other words. YOU picked cap, and started to deflect on it.

 

No, we discussed what "popping a CAP" is.

So does it make a difference for you that he told them to be peaceful? Would his speech have been any worse if he did NOT tell them to be peaceful?

No, I have acknowledged COUNTLESS times that he told them to fight. I just don't see any problem with it, just like I don't see any problem with the millions of politicians who said it before him!

Well SOME of them fought, but you're assuming that they did it only because Trump told them to in that speech.

No, I have told you REPEATEDLY that I hold him accountable to a large degree for what happened on January 6.

I wouldn't have a problem with the Imam telling his followers to fight like hell, but if he had previously been promoting a false narrative like Trump, then I WOULD hold him accountable to a large degree for any violence done in his name.

Yes, the other words are "popping a." The third word is CAP. In post 1973 you cited four links each which contained "popping a cap." Trump did not saying anything about "popping a cap." Simple!

 

You asked what pop means. I sourced it. You dropped it. So we discussed what pop means.
You're just trolling about cap now. I'm not seeing how this is relevant at all.

You're responding to "I do not care that he gave mixed signals.".

So your argument is that we can not assume +700 people who fought for that cause (since they got charged) after Donald's stop the steal speech where he told them to go fight all the time for the sake to prevent Donald losing his presidency, while you also argue that Donald is accountable for it.

flip flop flip flop.

of course, and also claim we can't assume that his followers fought just because he told them so. har har

I never said he did. So you're just making an irrelevant point.

 

Clearly you are trying desperately to claim that by saying "pop pop", Trump was referring to the use of firearms.

Clearly you acknowledge that he told them to be peaceful. So does it make a difference for you that he told them to be peaceful? Would his speech have been any worse if he did NOT tell them to be peaceful?

Of course. The Capitol protest was pre-planned before Trump's speech. Simple!

Did the Imam in your scenario tell his followers to PHYSICALLY fight?

So then what's the connection between Trump saying "pop pop" and the sources that you provided for "popping a cap?"

 

You asked what pop pop means, I gave sources half a month ago and you still seem to be refusing to accept this but you got no argument to found this on.

Its irrelevant that he gave mixed signals since Donald still motivated his crowed to fight their way in the Capitol and stop that "steal" through a trial by combat going pop pop. They couldn't stop that "steal" by being peaceful. They could not have a trial by combat "peacefully". They could not go pop pop "peacefully" either. It's that simple, and you acknowledge Donald guilt in this.

Same way his followers could not stop that steal standing idle by.

 

Violent terrorist was shot by police.

cry me a river.

 

The point of the thread was to highlight the media's lack of attention given to an unarmed shooting. No questions were asked, whereas when it's an unarmed black criminal shot by police they do nothing BUT ask questions and jump to all sorts of conclusions! DOUBLE STANDARD!

 

So then what's the connection between Trump saying "pop pop" and the sources that you provided for "popping a cap?"

It's your ASSUMPTION that his crowd were motivated by his speech.

Well they weren't able to stop the steal VIOLENTLY either were they?

 

It explains what pop means.

It's the opinion of the house of representatives who impeached Donald over it.

The politicians fled and were made to postpone their work until the order was restored.

 

No, it explains what "popping a cap" means!

And it's NOT the opinion of the Senate which voted against conviction!

Yes, so the Trump supporters FAILED even though they were violent!

 

and so you know what pop means.

Who cares. He still got impeached, by the biggest bipartisan vote ever to be made.
I do even recall his convicted followers claim they got duped by Donald.
So much for claiming it's just my opinion.

Point stands that "Same way his followers could not stop that steal standing idle by."... it had to be a violent attempt that Donald promoted.

 

Yep:

The impeachment failed to get to the end point!

They could not stop the steal by being VIOLENT!

 

Your source says it's an explosive sound... the type that is made by firing a cap.... as I sourced.
An other way to make an explosive sound, is using a pipe bomb.

you really know nothing. lol
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/us/politics/trump-impeached.html
Trump Impeached for Inciting Insurrection President Trump became the first president to be impeached twice......

Indeed. Donald made a rally called "stop the steal", where he urged his fascist to stop that so called stealing away his presidency, something that could not be done peacefully. Donald paid a gimp to tell his fascist to go have a trial by combat. He urged them all to go and fight like hell. Subsequently, he got impeached over it. The 2nd time this happened to him. The humiliation could not have been greater. And you're his champion in this thread.

 

So you are claiming that Trump meant firing a gun or setting off a pipe bomb! None of which happened on January 6!

The only point of impeachment is to try and turn it into a conviction! Trump continued as President after the impeachment and after his acquittal!

It could not be done even VIOLENTLY!

 

How about you quote me on that.

You're deflecting away. You claimed "It's your ASSUMPTION that his crowd were motivated by his speech". And it remains not the case.
Donald got impeached because of this. His fascist followers have said they got duped because of this.
You then claimed that the impeachment failed, and I proved you wrong. Donald got impeached,.... again.

Of course it could. They could have terrorized the politicians to argue differently and make Donald president.

 

Actually three agencies, the DOJ, the Capitol Police and the DCPD all found that the shooting of Ms. Babbitt WAS justified. SHE was shot because she was the first person through the breach separating manic insurrectionists screaming bloody murder at OUR Congress, evacuating (because of the violence) only a few feet away down the hall. Considering how closely scrutinized officer involved shooting are, it's reassuring that all was done to be sure the incident was justified. I'm glad Officer Byrd is now In Charge of House Security.

 

So what does "explosive sound" have to do with what Trump said?

As in, the impeachment PROCESS failed! Only the first half was successful, but why is that relevant if the second half failed? The House impeached and the Senate acquitted! The impeachment process failed! Simple!

It never happened! It never came even CLOSE to happening! The politicians were safely evacuated! Simple!

 

Why are you asking me, when you brought that up in your source?

Does it look like I care that you think the impeachment failed, when I sourced that Donald really got impeached for inciting the insurrection?
Point stands he incited the violence and it aint my opinion.

It still stands that stopping the steal could only happen through violence / terror.
It's only because the politicians had to run for their lives that it all failed.

 

What are you talking about? YOU brought up "explosive sound!"

I said that the impeachment PROCESS failed! The impeachment process is a two stage process! The first stage succeeded, and the second stage failed! Simple!

You're assuming that if the politicians did not run, that Trump would be President right now!