Unashamed brutal action is the only answer.

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  1. Jack Napier

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    I would imagine were we to do a count of all the wasted police resources, man power and financial spent chasing trivial crimes, it would likely stagger us all. It would be one thing if such man power and monies were being spent in a society otherwise free of serious crime, then you could justify it.

    But as you can see from below that is not the case.

    There comes a point in which you must draw a line in the sand. That point has long since passed. There comes a point when simple logic must determine where you direct all available manpower and resources at, while taking it away from all things that are a speck of sand in comparison. And there comes a point when only swift and brutal action is the answer.

    Thus in relation to this story, here is what I would do. I would have a good bloody think about all the crap that the police waste large amounts of money on. Like chasing those that grown cannabis plants in their house. Once you listed all other such trivia that police don't really need to be wasting time on, you would soon see you had a huge budget free and many officers free. And much more time freed up as well.

    I would then deploy all of that saved resource on a total purge of the problem in this story. If need be, I would augment it with extra employees and resources. If need be I would bring in external assistance to train them in the latest methods of detection.

    What exists right now is clearly not working. Therefore a relentless and aggressive approach is called for.

    I would create new and multiple specialist teams whose only goal was to bring those involved to justice. I would set targets, tough targets, and give bonuses to those that met them. I would spend more money making it easier for victims to come forward. I would simply put a collective ring around those involved in these activities, trapping as many as I could over a 5yr period. I would offer an amnesty to lower level people who were prepared to expose others.

    And then I would try and execute all those found involved in it.

    Until I had purged as many that exist today and sent out a message that if you do this on our patch you WILL be hunted, you WILL be found, and you will hang.:steamed:

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    Human trafficking is a growing problem around the world. Every year, thousands of women, children and men fall into the hands of traffickers, in their own countries and abroad.


    A UN report says the vast majority of detected trafficked people are women, accounting for around 60% while children account for 27 percent.

    Slavery is one of the most lucrative illicit business in Europe, where criminals are making around 2.5 billion per year.

    As this is a continuing global problem, experts gathered in the UN today for the United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime.

    They mainly discussed different technical cooperation issues, which are connected to trafficking in persons.

    In advance of the UN convention, a charity event was held to support victims of human trafficking.

    The event was attended by actor Nicolas Cage who is a Goodwill Ambassador for the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.

    At the event Persian carpets were auctioned and nearly 180 000 US dollars was raised for the UN voluntary Trust Fund.

    A significant amount of money was raised for the UN Voluntary Trust fund. However, this is a small amount in comparison to some 32 billion US dollars estimated value of human trafficking. Campaigners say they have a long way to go until this will not be a profitable business for traffickers.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/11/07/333427/eu-human-trafficking-worth-25-billion-euros/
     
  2. skeptic-f

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    Great. The fascist solution to a horrendous problem. It's that very lack of human empathy that makes human trafficking possible in the first place.
     
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    I agree with nothing you have just written.

    Do I have "empathy" with those that traffic children etc for sex and so on?

    Of course not.

    Who in their right mind would reserve anything but disgust and contempt for such vile specimens of humanity.

    I would have no issue at all nor shed any tears taking them out of the gene pool.

    Sorry if that upsets the liberal position of wanting to read them a bed time story and give them warm milk..
     
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    What I was referring to was the fascistic habit of labelling a particular group sub-human and only deserving of death. I very much doubt that you could prove it was their genes that made them such social monsters. There is also the idea of ignoring broad swathes of other crimes in order to go after one particular category. This is very fascistic, such as the great waste of Nazi resources on pursuing the Final Solution when they had a war to fight.

    PS - I do not prescribe cookies and warm milk as a cure for human trafficking. Such rhetoric only demeans you, JN.
     
  5. Jack Napier

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    Okay.

    Let's play the game.

    Ready?

    Does this man pass as being "human" to you?

    Is this man deserving of your cited "empathy"?

    Is it worth spending a fortune to keep this man alive, and in time, they do bed in to prison by the way.

    You tell me.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hter-wife-held-childs-hand-pleads-guilty.html


    I repeat - no tears from me if they were eliminated.

    Sorry.
     
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    Indeed.

    You have won me over.

    Men like this need "understanding".

    How EVIL of men to suggest otherwise.

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    A Missouri man accused of planning for his daughter to be beaten and raped was swiftly arrested by police last Friday.

    Anthony Brinkman, 32, allegedly placed an ad online looking for someone to beat and rape his 11-year-old daughter while he watched, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.

    What Brinkman didn't count on was an undercover officer responding to the request. Officer Randy Vaughn, a spokesman for the St. Louis County Police Department, said the undercover officer agreed to meet the suspect at a predetermined location, KMOV reported.

    Brinkman then took his 11-year-old daughter 80 miles away from their home in Cuba, Mo. to St. Louis. He thought he was meeting a woman interested in sexually assaulting the girl with sex toys, according to KSDK. When he pulled into the meeting spot -- a local Cracker Barrel -- he was immediately taken into custody.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/05/anthony-brinkman-child-rape_n_4220018.html
     
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    You keep missing the point, JN. It's a slippery slope from executing someone for horrendous crimes to the torture/execution of someone for stealing or cheating on their spouse. Just where do you draw the line when you adopt your starting attitude?
     
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    Your position is flawed.

    We have a life sentence here.

    It did not follow that we hand it to just everyone did it...
     
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    How does the slave market in female humans work?

    How do the purchasers keep their girl from being a giant liability to him from society?
     
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    Before you try saving the police some time, you'd have to change many of the so-called crimes on the books to non-crimes. I still want people picked up for drunken or reckless driving, tagging neighborhood walls, etc. As for human trafficking, you might want to check with some of our 'allies' where trafficking has been enabled.
     
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    Drugs, violent abuse, actual confinement, murder in some cases, shallow graves, dumpsters.
     
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    What you said, Phoebe, sounds dangerous and expensive.

    Reminds me of the time when Britain forbade the import of corn. People started smuggling it. As the police tried to stop it, the more aggressive and violent people came into the business. Same thing happend when the USA banned alcoholic drinks. The USA even poisoned a lot of people to stop them from drinking alcohol.

    Maybe if female slavery was allowed, there would be a lot less brutality and suffering.
    In ancient Israel, female slaves did not go out of bondage at the various jubilees ordained in the Law of Moses.

    Recently the USA formed an "Islamic" alliance with the Saudis. What ya gonna do when their nice terrorists for democracy begin killing the guys and stealing the girls like they do in Syria, Kosovo, Libya and elsewhere?
     
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    The following are little more than a virus on mankind.

    Peter Tobin.

    Robert Black.

    Ian Brady.

    And so on.

    You cannot cure them.

    You cannot rehabilitate them.

    There is no question of their guilt.

    By their actions they have made themselves sub human.

    Why waste money keeping a virus alive?
     
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    I totally agree that such vermin should be executed - immediately after they get their fair trial. Walk them out behind the court house and bam, load them into the hearse.
    There is no point at all in keeping them alive at taxpayer's expense. Some of those tax payers are family of the victim. Such cruel irony......
     
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    Moreover, once inside they like to then milk the soft system.

    Case in point - Dennis Neilson.

    Serial killer of up to 30 people. Demanded gay porn as a "human right".

    Routinely plays the system.
     
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    It goes without saying that these kinds of people are the lowest of the low. However, I personally disagree with the death penalty as a point of principle.
     
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    Fine, reduce yourself to their level of depravity. Seems my father and his generation left their work of ridding the world of fascist morons, unfinished.
     
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    For some, the world is nothing more than a simplistic case of black and white.
     
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    Human trafficking is a phony issue. Kidnapping for any reason is already covered by a myriad of state, local, federal, and international laws. You are just attempting to revive Carrie Nation's crusade of Puritans, who H.L.Mencken said lived in fear that somewhere someone was having a good time. This new War on Prostitution includes Brownshirt entrapment of Johns who are said to be promoting "human trafficking."
    The truth is that a lot of men and women WANT to be employed in the sex industry, and a lot of people want to pay them for their services, including making movies with them and taking still pictures. Do these people in the link below look like they are under duress and want you to send out the Federales to save them?
    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Gorgeous+Shemales&FORM=RESTAB
     
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    I haven't made any judgments, I'm just telling you how they keep their ho's in line. The methods aren't much different than 150 years ago with black slaves except maybe for the drug part.
     
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    Nah, screw them, they are scum mate.

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    Hardly.

    They rape a kid.

    Not me.

    They are a virus that should be eliminated, not fettered and pandered.

    Sorry.
     
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    Then please tell me the grey in raping a child of 3, passing her around your pals and her choking on a condom?

    Thanks

    The Fascist Moron That Takes Lectures From Anyone.

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    Then if you want to build a case for baby rapists and are offended by my not wanting to, why don't you carry on where he left off and come sort me out?
     
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    You would not be saying that if it were your daughter though.
     
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    This is a total non sequitur, strawman, argument- trying to make the case that if a person is in favor of "Liberty and Justice for all" that he therefor has a soft spot in his heart for baby rapists. Give me a friggin' break.
     
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    It was not me that mentioned a "grey area" was it?

    Nope.

    Can you see a "grey area" in the examples I gave?
     

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