US no longer a democracy study finds

Not the way people generally think though. Control in the past was simply a stone wall where top executives said "thats not a real story."

The control was not a huge micro managed propaganda machine. The news used to be so bland and monotone that very few people under 40 ever watched it.

 

I, and the facts, would disagree with your analysis.

 

I think Obama should stop interfering in other nationa problems by whatever means he seems to use. Either direct action with military force or indirect action by promoting social activism through Social media. Personally I think this social media fashion is a plague on good order in the world and seems to me tp promote are rather decadent future instead of a well ordered society.

But then we do have a ballot box in this Constitution driven Republic to change things when the time is right. I only hope our voters will see the errors of their previous ways and allow democracy to play its proper place in our society instead of money for the sake of power.

 

SS I have found little to feel hopeful about regarding the Republican party and forget about the Democrat Party, hijacked long ago by people with an Anti-American agenda.

But Watergate being the pinnacle of evil political acts? Sorry, third rate burglary, at best.

The present administrative crowd is responsible for a lawlessness that is audacious in both its breadth and scope...the President announces that he will violate the Constitution to the Congress and many of the People's representatives (with a D after their name?), whose power he will usurp, applaud him! The rest sit in silence. The Audacity of such Blatant Corruption and absence of Integrity! He has committed acts contrary to the Supreme Law of the Land and his oath of office. The problem is many fold but the first and last restraints against tyranny start and end with the Constitution and the all the People's elected and appointed representatives honoring their oath of office.

President Obama has been honest about who he really is...just seems too many see him like a lonely drunk sees the proverbial last girl in the bar after a heavy night of drinking 'til close. The girl is who she is, its the perception of the inebriated patron that is less than optimal.

 

IMHO if the Constitution was applied as it is written then there would be no colour or segregation problem and only a need to man the Supreme Court in a totally non Political way. Democracy within our Republic would men what it says

Since the law has been corrupted by successive political appointees and the electoral process by BIG MONEY, the Constitution is used as a political weapon not a Commandment as maybe it should.

 

The USA is now a participation society as well, as most European countries have became over the past decade.
You have to fight for your rights, which means that a society is invisibly set in motion You have to participate, you have to fight, means a struggle, motion, war.
This is how empires are created right under our noses.

 

yep. the 2nd A..........................

 

Interestingly enough, the US was never a democracy to begin with. It is referred to by the Constitution as a republic. So, took them over 230+ years to figure that out. Funny stuff.

 

no he hasn't. He's never admitted to being a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Muslim, yet, and he's never going to admit he's a damned liar.

 

You walk a thin line of political discourse and rhetoric buffoonery

 

What's your solution to the healthcare problem? I'm not big on ObamaCare at all - at the same time I'm tired of some people on the right denying that there is a problem in the costs of healthcare without offering any solution. Whether or not people have a "right" to healthcare I think it's denialistic to say that there's not a problem with the system when out of pocket healthcare costs are so exhoribant. Healthcare's not exactly a "luxury" - people don't go to the hospital for fun. I'd support subsidization of catastrophic coverage over what we have now.

At this point rather than hear all the issues with ObamaCare I'd rather hear a real solution from the right-wing on the issue. Most countries seem to recognize healthcare as a basic survival issue, not a 'left/right' issue. I am starting to think that there's a blind and unhealthy infatuation with 'corporations' here based on talking points that people've heard repeated too many times.

But regardless of Obama we've got to get past the idea that anyone in favor of reform in the healthcare system is 'Marxist' - that's really absurd right there.

 

So is US an Empire or not. It surely acts like one these days and does everything it can to expand it under the guise of commercial agreements, which largely serve to expand the reach of American Imperialism. Hence also why the military has to expand its 'business' in order to protect those expanded Imperialistic interests. Many Empires before this one have done this and eventually declined due to the cost of maintaining the military needed to support the business.

I saw a picture of a beautiful 'Bald Eagle' in a tree near my home. Then it struck me that the symbol of America lives by preying on animals much animals smaller than itself. Is there a metaphor here, I wonder?

 

Which is a democratic form of government. No we are not a true Democracy, that type of system is impossible in a country the size of the US. That said, back to the OP, want this situation to change ban Lobbies and reform the election process so that each can only spend a set amount of money running for office, and there ya go, problem solved or at least reduced.

 

Empires have colonies, the US has none. The bald Eagle is a fish eater and takes carrion when it can, a better symbol would have been the Golden Eagle, larger bird and can even bring down a deer, which by the way is larger than the Eagle.

 

This is something I've recognised as true for some time already, and it's apparent in the electoral process as well. The choices we are given from the only two "viable" and "electable" parties each election cycle both favor policies that are also favored by the wealthy classes. The job of politicians in this country is to tell the rest of the voting public what to think and how to vote; they act as public relations and sales personnel on behalf of the elites who select and finance them.

 

True, but US has surrogate colonies it seems to me. Countries heavily supported by US investment and US buying power. S Korea would be just one example among many. Perhaps even China another.

To deny that America does not have Imperialistic desires or reach read Hillary Clinton's latest book, where she states a desire when she makes overseas visits to meet with dissident groups and individuals. Promotion of unrest by another name IMHO. Mind you I have never liked her, even less now.

 

The structure of founding documents an ideal that fully implies that the people have a overpowering control through the statement of "alter or abolish" abusive government. Article V codifies and continues that.

However England covertly took over after the civil war and has suppressed free speech and no unity adequate for Article V is possible because the people are too deceived and manipulated to grasp constitutional intent which controls Article V.

 

It ceased being a democracy in 1913 when traiter woodrow wilson signed the federal reserve act so that the fed now controls all of our money and charges us interest.

 

He should have learned that in civics class............

 

The problem. It seems to me, is that such system of democracy we have in our Republic has been usurped by 'big money'. Even our local law enforcement officials have to raise money from somewhere if they want to get elected. That will tend to bias their righteousness away from the truth towards the political bias of the individual or group that provides the funds. So our police for example must follow their leader and hence we have a situation where some forces are requiring their policemen to wear cameras to tell the 'truth'. If we could trust them to tell the truth, these cameras would not be necessary.

 

Cant remember if i mentioned this before or not,but it ceased being a democracy in 1913 when traiter woodrow wilson signed the federal reserve act putting the bankers in countrol of our country.

every single president since Hoover has been a traiter to americans serving their interests instead of the people.The one exception to that rule who bucked the system and didnt,paid the price for it for doing so. november 22nd 1963 ring a bell here with anybody.THAT horrible day in our history confirmed we live in a banana republic.

 

yeah its too bad we have to live in a world where money makes the world go around.If it wasnt for money,we wouldnt have all these wars and there would be a lot less murders everywhere as well.

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unfortunately you are correct.

 

and dont forget in this banana republic we live in,the elite have already chosen our elected officials for us with rigged elections and whoever they want in will get elected in this corrupt two party system of demopublicans and reprocrats which in reality is a one party system designed to look like two parties so the sheople think they have a choice in who gets elected ignorantly going to the voting booths wasting their time voting for obama or romney,too stupid to understand how evil and corrupt they both are here only to serve the bankers instead of them thinking their vote actually makes a difference.

 

Obama like every president since Lyndon Johnson is just a puppet for the elite doing what they have instructed him to do.The sheople think the president is the one that makes all these choices of going to war and everything.He is just a figurehead carrying out the orders that the elite have told him to carry out.

 

anyone read "WAR IS A RACKET"
war is profitable, therefore, lots of it!

also, If I may...... I'd like to put in a plug for the
9/11 threads in the "conspiracy" section of this forum.
There seems to be only a few regulars that post, and
it really needs some fresh in-put.