USA -China Tensions In a Changing Dynamic

It was contained by Trump. Biden threw the doors open. Pay attention.

 

Why China may be the last bipartisan issue left in Washington

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...left-washington-n1261407?cid=eml_nbn_20210322

This diminished bipartisan ship just leaves the Gov vulnerable....... as getting anything done........becomes virtually impossible. Not an example of a finely tuned Democracy . Too much energy is spent being bullheaded resistive, obstructive by the R's Where power and straying in power is the key objective.

China needs bipartisan and intelligent handling. and if they can work together in this area.........why not in others??

 

Because both parties only care about power, and China is one of the very few things that can threaten that anymore.

 

right like how weak they were in korean war? back in 50 ccp just establish, they dont have navy nor airforce nor nuke, yet they put a stalemate against combine allies force, best not to underestimate the other side.

 

I think we need to take the lead on cutting ties with china. Stop all economic activity. Like I said in another thread, I had heard that China was doing bad stuff to the Uighurs, but now, having just finished reading about it, I am thoroughly disgusted that we deal with them at all. I think the US needs to lead the rest of the world in this. If we all stop dealing with China, their economy collapses, and then I don't think their regime will last long. Obama and Trump dropped the ball on this. Let's see if Biden has the guts to do the right thing. We like to say how much we hate Nazis. Well, now we are dealing with a regime that is trying to wipe out an ethnicity, with over a million in concentration camps, thousands of women being repeatedly raped every night. If we do not cut ties with them, then we are no better than they are.

 

The Chinese people are strong. The West took the wrong approach in rhetoric and education after WWII. We should have thanked the Chinese and Russians for their sacrifice and strength against the Japanese Empire and the Nazis. It should have been taught that they gave more, and should be respected for their strength.

But like the Soviet Communists, the CCP is weak.

 

True. President Pooh Bear says this also.

 

a weak ccp that outlast soviet and continue going strong? and now most chinese say they support their government even after Millions chinese travel oversea to EU/US etc etc. if they are weak, why would we even bother with china. the fact is they become 2nd economy/military in 40 years.

 

U.S. and allies set to announce coordinated sanctions on China over Uyghurs 'genocide'.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/...anctions-on-china-over-uighur-genocide-477434

 

Good to hear!

 

Indeed. I like the approach too. Moe thought out .....with some strategy behind it.

 

The US population is beginning to understand the threat China represents to the future of America. The CCP basically demanded Biden Admin fold. It's nice when an bunch of arrogant pricks goes on TV and shows the world they really are arrogant pricks.
I'll give Biden's SofS "B" for resisting a response as China over played their hand. Biden seems to get it.
Footnote: they closely follow our media, and to them it looks like we are ready to fracture into warring tribes, and they are exploiting it. But they don't understand that fist shaking BS is a part of America's internet culture.

 

The main problem is their form of government. They don't have an opposition political movement or media that we can use to check their actions. But we do! And they are using the hell out of it against us. A free media and opposing political movements (that are allowed to exist, and are not killed) can be a double edged sword. They can be used to check a foreign government from doing something dangerous or inhumane. But they can also be used to check a foreign country so much that it becomes completely indecisive and the society basically takes no action. I think this is China's strategy with us.

If we had an opposition political movement within China that we could find ways to work with, or find ways to help spread their narrative, the China problem would become much easier.
The same is true to varying degrees with Russia, Iran, and North Korea.

 

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The problem is every time we try to do that the Communist leaders gain power over their people. The play seems to be to offset sanctions losses to your power capability by transferring the losses to the people, and basically starving them. Then use their suffering to rally them against the enemy by blaming their condition on the enemy.

 

so when is biden gonna sanction Saudi over yemen wars, you know like over 300,000 already dead there. or the myanmar rohingya couple years back. also chinese been travel over sea for the past 30 years, its estimate there are over hundreds millions chinese travel to US/Canada/EU and other place for the past 20yrs alone. they seen western news etc, yet their support for China is stronger than say 1989.

 

well guess China and Russia just got even more closer, i wont be surprise they announce some kind military alliance in the future

maybe its time to start thinking building bunker in the near future.

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-china-lash-destructive-us-105638889.html

 

China's growing firepower casts doubt on whether U.S. could defend Taiwan

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...=857693951420692326&utm_medium=Email Sailthru



China continues to play the long game... as the balance f power shifts.

 

China on Saturday announced sanctions on individuals and entities in the United States and Canada, in response to sanctions imposed on Chinese citizens and groups over Xinjiang

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/china-...-michael-chong-federal-subcommittee-1.5364957

That could have been predicted.

 

Pfui!

 

Badmouthing ones enemy is a widely used tool to get ones' own people all riled up and into battle fever. They did and still do the same to the Germans! Don't fall for it!

China resents US presence in Afghanistan
The “hidden agenda” of the war on terror in Afghanistan has been an open secret. The first inkling of its geopolitical character came when it transpired that even after installing a pro-US regime in Kabul in 2002-2003, Pentagon was in no mood to vacate its Central Asian bases. Finally, the bloody Islamist uprising in Andijan in Fergana Valley in May 2005 prompted Russia and China to orchestrate an SCO consensus seeking the expulsion of the US from those bases.

Moscow occasionally broke its silence in recent years to voice disquiet that the US was transferring Islamic State fighters from Iraq and Syria to Afghanistan.
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it’s clear … that in order for the U.S. to see its way out of Afghanistan, it has to first see its way out of China’s affairs.

Beijing has reason to be worried. In remarks on Thursday, Biden did not rule out the possibility of US troops staying in Afghanistan through the end of the year.

To be sure, China senses a red herring! Retired Army Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson spoke “on the threefold purposes of the US presence in Afghanistan, one of which is to contain China.”
Wilkerson’s assessment: “the CIA would want to destabilize China… (and) the best way to do it would be to foment unrest in Xinjiang.”

Xinjiang is a major logistics centre for China’s ambitious Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and the gateway to Central and West Asia, as well as to European markets.

The US is deeply hostile to the BRI and it is apparent that Washington’s campaign on Xinjiang is part of the Pentagon’s “Pivot to Asia,” along with naval threats in the South China Sea and support for separatist movements in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Tibet.
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The CIA has a long history of “weaponizing” Islamist groups. It has for long sought to recruit and train Uighur mercenaries and Chechens from Russia’s Caucasus region, planning to use them as a future terror force in China, Central Asia and Russia. Both groups were integrated into the US’ regime-change operation in Syria and these battle-hardened fanatics formed the backbone of the Islamic State and Al-Qaida.

Read more of this great article here:
https://www.indianpunchline.com/china-resents-us-presence-in-afghanistan/
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So, now we know roughly where the action will be.
Wishing you all peace and health!

 

China going to war with the USA would enable the USA to legitimately cancel the enormous debt we have to them. This would bankrupt them and aid us immensely, they won't do it.

 

I wish the congress were doing nothing. But unfortunately it is. Your premise is incorrect.

Politics.

 

they basically quoting Lawrence Wilkerson former chief of staff under Colin Powell. thats what their news came from

 

Bonus points, for keeping our language vibrant by using a perfectly-fine, evocative-sounding word that one rarely encounters anymore.

BTW, I got the joke, w/ "nice President Trump"-- I actually imagined a good cop/bad cop situation, w/ Biden, now, being the, "bad Trump."