Vaccines and reducing the world's population.

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Are many influential people willing to use vaccines to reduce the world's population?

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  2. Yes

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  3. I hope not

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    In your evasive one line reply. When are you going to respond to the rest of my post!

    You are just so irritating. I said : Do what I just did in 2 minutes. I clicked a few of those studies, numbers quoted as 1 instance, 3 instances, 5 instances!

    If you go through as many as you can, you will see very soon that the numbers are tiny compared to the volume of vaccinations performed. Your batshit link implies the number is excessive.

    Mainly adverse reactions in very small numbers and strong evidence for a few fatalities. The numbers are extremely low. I don't recall anywhere the mainstream media has kept any secrets about this.

    Total bullshit. The whole point of "Died Suddenly" was to suggest the numbers were excessive. The film is deceptive and provably so. Your list encompasses many duplicate studies and a very, very small overall percentile of reactions.

    Your whole claim suggests the opposite to reality. Or are you so naive as to think every medicine must never have problems?
     
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    I am positive these are authentic studies and cases - though blood clots are very rare indeed. It is a known side effect from other injections also. What point do you actually think you are making here?
     
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    I want to make it clear that the vaccine can indeed cause blood clotting, myocarditis, pericarditis, thrombosis, thrombocytopenia, anaphylaxis, Bell’s palsy, Guillain-Barre, cancer including deaths. So it's now clear that the covid vaccine has caused some of those cases. Do you agree?

    https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/covid-vaccine-scientific-proof-lethal/
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    Many have breached that duty and, in doing so, are recklessly causing a risk of death or serious injury, by carrying on regardless of the now-confirmed dangers associated with COVID 19 injections. Some of these risks are blood clotting, myocarditis, pericarditis, thrombosis, thrombocytopenia, anaphylaxis, Bell’s palsy, Guillain-Barre, cancer including deaths, etc.
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    I mainly agree(not with cancer!), but the numbers are very small and there is very little analysis of underlying conditions associated with the examples. These conditions are very much more prevalent and extreme in covid-19 itself.

    And the batshit conspiracy spin, the numbers are extremely small.
     
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    Different sources say different things. Now we have to figure out which sources are telling the truth.

    According to these sources below the increase in the death rate and the injury rate coincided with the vaccine rollout.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...the-worlds-population.602347/#post-1073957884

    BOMBSHELL Deaths Skyrocketed by 300% After COVID Vaccine - Funeral Director Blows The Whistle
    https://sage.gab.com/channel/redvoi...ocketed-by-300-after-6169949d1a47361352da1d73


    If that turns out to be true, the numbers are not extremely small.
     
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    No. The correct sources give full technical details. Your batshit sources do not.

    Something you will and never could do. You have no education on the matter and no critical thinking. It is one of your spam statements that leave you a way out of every debate.

    See batshit post batshit, never check anything. All of them using lists that contain easily proven lies, yet here you go, still posting them! Your "funeral director" blows air out of his butt. You ignored my funeral director explaining this.

    A clot too far: An embalmer dissects antivax misinformation about blood clots in Died Suddenly | Science-Based Medicine (sciencebasedmedicine.org)

    If it turns out to be true that the batshit you automatically believe is actually batshit, at what point will the penny drop? The answer? Never. There is no point where you will ever acquire the integrity or understanding to see why you are wrong?
     
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    At the 10:55 time mark of this video in post #16...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...the-worlds-population.602347/#post-1073962490

    ... this picture of a clot is shown.
    https://www.bing.com/images/search?...E37360&selectedIndex=16&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0

    I clicked on the link to the right of it and got this page from a veterinary website.
    https://veteriankey.com/cardiovascular-system-and-lymphatic-vessels/

    A little more that halfway down the page the picture can be found. This is the caption under the picture.
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    WEB FIG. 10-4 Postmortem “chicken fat” arterial cast, dog.Note how the clot conforms to the shape of the lumens of the vessels from which it was removed. Chicken fat clots consist primarily of clotted plasma and fibrin and other proteins of the coagulation cascade. They are often indicative of anemia; however, in all animals their formation by the separation of the red blood cells from the rest of the components of blood depends on the erythrocyte sedimentation rate (ESR). Separation can occur in all animals in response to systemic inflammation, which increases the ESR, but the horse normally has a high ESR because equine erythrocytes clump together in rouleau formation, which increases the ESR. Thus depending on the ESR, postmortem clots may be pale white to yellow (“chicken fat” clot) or shiny red (“currant jelly” clot) or sometimes a mixture. (Courtesy Dr. R.K. Myers, College of Veterinary Medicine, Iowa State University.)
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    It seems that the picture is a clot from a dog. I don't know if this means much but who has an opinion on this? Can someone post a picture of a similar clot that came from a human?
     
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    What are you expecting? Your sources are known for dishonesty. Blood clots are a very rare side-effect and whilst a few have been traced as significant to vaccines, it certainly doesn't rule out the covid 19 virus itself. Read this article and educate yourself:

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/a-...formation-about-blood-clots-in-died-suddenly/
     
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    What's your position on that picture of the white blood clot? Do you think it's definitely not from a dog? Do you think it might be from a dog? You're being a bit vague.
     
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    At about the 11:05 mark of the video in post #16 she says that the embalmers aren't considering the difference in time between the death and the embalming and that the white clots form in bodies of people that have been dead longer. At the 9:00 time mark of this video...

    Richard Hirschman - WARNING EXTREMELY GRAPHIC! Structures Killing Injected 1 Year After Shot
    https://www.brighteon.com/352bd9b1-d6ae-4692-97db-1ff3413a5fcf


    ...the embalmer says he's embalmed the bodies of people who've been dead for a week and he'd never seen those white clots before.
     
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    Being vague? I don't care what it is, how's that! The whole thing is a big pack of batshit exaggerated to the max. If you can't see that, then you are drowning in disinformation.

    Did you even read that link!

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/a-...formation-about-blood-clots-in-died-suddenly/
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rlds-population.602347/page-2#post-1073971220
    If it turns out that the picture is really of a blood clot from a dog, it looks suspiciously like the video you posted in post #16 is a piece of sophistry. Do you really not have an opinion on this?


    You didn't comment on post #36.

    Yes. Being a layman I'd have to ask some experienced embalmers in order to find out who's telling the truth. I find it suspicious that the article didn't mention that the video "Died Suddenly" alleges that an increase in deaths began at about the time of the vaccine rollout and that seems to be the case.
    https://nostrashamus.wordpress.com/...e-has-risen-against-expectation-i-wonder-why/

    That should have been addressed.
     
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    No. I don't actually give a rat's backside about your latest evasion.

    Yes I did, I said through example that my embalmer blows your idiot out of the water.

    In everything. Stop right there.

    It has been addressed. Your sources are lying and so are you by repeating it, when proven, is that your pathetic movie is made up and contrived deception.

    The death rate came down with vaccine rollout.
     
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    I show that the video you posted shows a blood clot from a dog presented as a human blood clot* and you call it an evasion. Your credibility just took "another" big hit and all the viewers have seen it. If you think it's not true, say why.


    This info seems to be consistent with the idea that there was a rise in the death rate when the vaccine was rolled out. Take a look at some of it and tell us what you think.

    http://www.kathydopp.info/COVIDinfo/Vaccines/MortalityRise

    Post- COVID-Vaccine Adverse Events & Deaths.
    http://www.kathydopp.info/COVIDinfo...8ABdqXLLvj2Zd3l7Hs5GTewboeTUhSmCIe8tN2J4k0jvY

    The first link is this video.

    Mark Steyn - Victims of the Vax Special


    Skip the part between the 3:40 and 8:00 time marks.


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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rlds-population.602347/page-2#post-1073971220
     
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    Entirely nothing to do with the point she was making. Your pathetic evasion of her whole video based on a reference picture that is identical to a human bloodclot is just what you do!

    THE least credible, worst serial forum spammer, in history, once again offers this moronic credibility statement.

    Because you are absurd. I give you numerous examples where your lying movie fakes whole cases, you find an image used by way of reference. If you think the two are somehow level in fraud and deception then you have no chance of ever crawling out of your batshit prison.

    Your double standard are so out of whack it is quite disturbing.

    See batshit post batshit, never verify any of it.

    Your spam tactic of throw crap at the wall, once again in action.
     
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    upload_2023-1-15_19-15-15.png

    A complete lie.

    The rollout began slowly in February 2021 and actually only really gathered monentum BY
    May 2021. That graph details the references for covid 19 deaths!
     
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    This explanation makes sense.

    What’s Going On? India Sees Surge of Deaths and Injuries Following COVID-19 Vaccine Roll-Out
    https://www.jewworldorder.org/whats...injuries-following-covid-19-vaccine-roll-out/

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    Here are some more statistics.

    VAERS Summary for COVID-19 Vaccines through 12/30/2022
    https://vaersanalysis.info/2023/01/06/vaers-summary-for-covid-19-vaccines-through-12-30-2022/
     
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    You have absolutely no redeeming qualities. You ignore copious deceptions in your stupid batshit movie whilst making some idiotic song and dance about an image used in reference, you now ignore clear deception in your last batshit link where they have used figures from covid-19 deaths and lied about the rollout date! You then post even more batshit that "makes sense" when you totally don't even have any!

    See batshit post batshit make zero analysis or checks, provide nothing in content about your batshit.

    Bullshit, says who? Another batshit source with zero checking!
     
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    How would you go about checking those figures? Would you compare them with some official US government figures? Please explain how statistics can be verified.
     
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    ~ Bored evil people with selfish desires and too much influence. QUESTION : Why are governments allowing these psychopaths dictate future world agenda ?
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    And you ask this after you've dumped it and made no attempt to even check the source data!?

    No. Because automatic dismissal would be in place!

    If they are from a source that you frequent, assume they are deceptive. VEARS data is not reliable at all. It has no causality or correlation! This is why theses stats are monitored properly to see if there are trends or inconsistencies. None of your sources will ever do that.

    Posts continue to misrepresent VAERS COVID-19 vaccine data | AP News
    Fact Check-Reports of 9,318 VAERS COVID-19 vaccine deaths do not prove causality | Reuters
     
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    More salient, why are you allowed to post this outright lie and disgusting inaccurate label. People like you seem to be incapable of reading the actual context of his talk. There was no evil plot to kill off people through vaccines, a ludicrous cherry picked claim. His talk quite clearly stated that families routinely were having more children because the diseases were cutting their lives short. With vaccines, this number could be reduced - enabling parents to better plan their families.
     
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