Vaccines and reducing the world's population.

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Are many influential people willing to use vaccines to reduce the world's population?

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  3. I hope not

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    @Scott I see you ignored my suggestion that you logoff and do something productive! Instead you come straight back with total batshit and no commentary. Pathetic.

    The idiotic disinformation continues unabated.

    1. Lisa-Marie Presley, a known drug addiction to opioids and the dishonest movie suggests it was the vaccine.

    2. Then idiotic scaremongering with the bullshit about "rushing" it. The delivery system was already established years ago, only the isolated mRNA was needed plus trials.

    3. A whole host of conspiracy batshit taglines. All debunked.

    4. Then the side effects that have affected miniscule numbers.

    Nowhere does the disinformation movie list "a lot of people" dying suddenly or otherwise, let alone any correlation or valid comparison with other years.
     
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    If you watch the video from the 15:15 time mark to the 16:40 time mark, you'll see that the family says that their daughter's doctor said that her condition was caused by the vaccine. Let's hear your analysis of this.
     
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    All hearsay, but so what? How the hell does this relate to your bullshit claim "A lot of people seem to be dying suddenly."

    What's to analyze, I have none of the details, none of the timings, unknown medical history and she hasn't died!
     
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    Right out of the gate, the disinformation about Gates, doesn't bode well! You are a disgrace the way you are conducting your double standards.
    "Died Suddenly", aka Lied Suddenly! - Your whole movie portrays a barrage of supposed deaths that are complete fabrications! Tell "us" why they would do THAT!? Many times worse. Your sources lie and cheat and you carry on spamming them. Where is your accountability to your corrupt sources that you dishonestly blanket apply to anything disputing them?

    I listened to your batshit lady who offers an insane claim with not a single shred of evidence as she plays the "poor me" card for people labelling her as a conspiracy theorist. That's a very polite term in her case.

    To put her claim into context, this lunatic says 30% of the vaccinated are "going to die". The figures concerning the death rate, even in your deceptive graphs are not even close to a tenth of that figure. So what time frame are we talking about that, once reached, means you can actually properly shut up, issue a forum-wide grovelling apology, logoff and do something honest with your life!?

    nb. Did you actually sit at your computer and watch that entire pile of garbage? With its debunked inserted frames of people collapsing and lies about cause of death, yet another disinformation film and more of your nauseating double standards.
     
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    Of course she hasn't but it's alleged that the vaccine causes deaths and injuries. A doctor has allegedly said that the vaccine caused the injury. What's your opinion? Do you think it's a lie? Do you think there's a chance that it's the truth?

    She was speaking in the future tense.

    Dr. David Martin's opinion is nothing to sneeze at.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...es-deadly-blood-clots.606446/#post-1073919694
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...es-deadly-blood-clots.606446/#post-1073922228


    This all may come true. We'll have to wait and see. It seems to be beginning.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...dly-blood-clots.606446/page-4#post-1073977471
     
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    Of course? Meh! You made the bullshit claim by supplying yet another deceptive video about "sudden death"!

    Once again, it's hearsay!

    Which part of my simple reply confuses you!?

    "What's to analyze, I have none of the details, none of the timings, unknown medical history and she hasn't died!"

    It's like debating with a child. Which part of my statement makes you think I am suggesting otherwise!?

    "this lunatic says 30% of the vaccinated are "going to die". "

    How the hell would you know! His idiotic claims have been debunked to death.

    Meanwhile you will spam your stupid batshit with no analysis, ignoring every response.

    So what time frame are we talking about that, once reached, means you can actually properly shut up, issue a forum-wide grovelling apology, logoff and do something honest with your life!?
     
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    I've never seen them debunked. Link to where they've been debunked.
     
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    Your opinion or view doesn't count. You are incapable of honest and objective debate. You watched the batshit film Lied Suddeniy, had the whole thing stripped down to proven lies and still you reference it. You deny everything because you have chronic confirmation bias and appalling dishonest double standards.

    Regarding your quoted "doctor" who is "not to be sniffed at" meh!
    How the hell would you know!

    So what time frame are we talking about that, once reached, means you can actually properly shut up, issue a forum-wide grovelling apology, logoff and do something honest with your life!?
     
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    Translation: None of the sophistry against him is convincing enough to sway anyone of average intelligence and I'll just look silly if I post it and try to defend it so I'd better tap dance around the issue instead of addressing it directly.

    If his claims are so bad, let's hear you debunk them.
     
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    Spam statement. When you "translate" something it invariably becomes the most absurd of all possibilities.
    You aren't that smart. Nothing aimed sat you is sophistry, you just spam that line to evade all rebuttal.

    YOU didn't address anything directly! You quote an imbecile who uses his "doctor" title to confuse the useless conspiracy theorists. He is a financial analyst with ZERO experience.

    Fact check: The mRNA coronavirus vaccine is a vaccine, and it is designed to prevent illness | Reuters
    New 'Plandemic' Video Peddles Misinformation, Conspiracies - FactCheck.org

    Done already spammer, try to keep up.
     
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    You showed two mainstream media* sources. The mainstream media are known liars. Anytime there's a scandal in the government, the mainstream is full of damage-control. Just showing something from the mainstream isn't going to impress any thinking people much less make the evidence that the vaccine kills and injures** go away.

    https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Dr. david Martin



    *http://www.politicalforum.com/index...at-the-lies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798

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    The testimonies of people's vaccine injuries start at the 1:12:20 time mark of this video.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rlds-population.602347/page-3#post-1074006375

    This video...
    Doctor testifies under oath of perjury that COVID was created as a bio weapon.

    ...is about halfway down this page.
    https://prosecutenow.io/

    DR. DAVID MARTIN BRINGS MURDER CHARGES TO COURT OVER VAX DEATHS
    https://rumble.com/v2771iy-dr.-david-martin-brings-murder-charges-to-court-over-vax-deaths.html
     
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    You post nothing but disinformation/misinformation batshit.

    Moronic circular batshit reasoning. The alternative media have been conclusively proven to be VERY dishonest and you are cowardly avoiding admitting this.

    Bullshit! The media adore a scandal, they tear in like piranhas!

    YOU are not "thinking people" and impressing people like you relies on providing batshit.

    There is no substantial evidence, the vaccine like any injected foreign body will cause reactions in a tiny proportion of the population. Conspiracy clowns tell lies and conflate this accordingly.

    MEH! The epicenter of the world's most extreme litigation system and people are "complaining"?

    See batshit, post batshit, never check a damn thing and conduct nauseating dishonest double standards. Label every piece of rebuttal as mainstream and carry on spamming crap that not only has been fully discredited(that you are in denial about!) it has been shown to be downright lies.
     
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    @Scott I put something to you that you will not be able to answer!

    Suppose that every single piece of "information" that you post is disinformation, misinformation, lies, cherry picked and from sources that always have ulterior motives and goals - such as making money from speaking tours, paypal contributions, "alternative" medicine etc. EXACTLY what sources would you accept as accurate to debunk them!? How is it even possible without your totally dishonest instant dismissal because you label it "mainstream"?
     
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    This doctor says that the vaccine is killing children.

    Dr. Peter McCullough - He testifies under oath that mRNA injection kills children! links in descript
    https://rumble.com/v267oxw-dr.-pete...nder-oath-that-mrna-injection-kills-chil.html


    Do you think that there's a chance that he's right? Do you simply write this off as disinfo?
     
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    You totally ran away from my question!

    Answer my bolded question,because I am getting fed up with your pathetic double standards and your moronic instant dismissal of every source that you label as mainstream. You are like a comedy troll who doesn't allow anything that contradicts your batshit. No he is not right! This buffoon is one of the lunatics who handed out Ivermectin with zero testing or trials!

    @Scott I put something to you that you will not be able to answer!

    EXACTLY what sources would you accept as accurate to debunk them!? How is it even possible without your totally dishonest instant dismissal because you label it "mainstream"?
     
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    ~ This is an understatement — unfortunately. As network "news " continues to lose audience more people will see the facts — not fake and spin.
    Hopefully it's not too late ...
     
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    It's way too late, a whole generation of gullible and uninformed "warriors" are sucking up the crazy conspiracy fake and spin and spewing it out everywhere,
     
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    You're not using the scientific method*. You seem to just be concluding what you want to be true. This is not very impressive no matter how authoritative and patronizing your attitude is.

    Here's some info on ivermectin in case any viewers haven't seen it.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-improvement-melbourne-covid-patients.584669/


    It's not a question of which source. It's a question of what's said. I've never seen what David Martin says debunked. I've only seen posters ridicule him and try to obfuscate what he says and then just consider his claims debunked.


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    https://www.google.com/search?q=sci...12j0i512l6.8786j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
     
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    PATHETIC SPAM! What kind of person are you that makes this identical claim when not once in 20 years have you even checked a single thing with even scant scientific rigor! You must have made that spam claim about 20 times.

    See batshit post batshit. Show the scientific method for its deployment!

    A cowardly evasion, try again - EXACTLY what sources would you accept as accurate to debunk them!? How is it even possible without your totally dishonest instant dismissal because you label it "mainstream"?

    A complete lie. For you, the worst serial forum spammer on the internet that is the LAST thing it is. At no point do you ever entertain anything that contradicts your confirmation bias.

    Why should this financial doctor be considered an expert in virology or anything relating to medicine!? Your dishonest double standards never question anything if it confirms your fixated view, even when your useless sources have been systematically shown to be disgraceful lies.

    You will cowardly avoid this below as well. Two statements from Martin - show where he uses the "scientific method", show his evidence for these and explain how you disprove this batshit - exactly what sources are acceptable to disprove a negative:

    “This is not a vaccine. This is a mRNA packaged in a fat envelope that is delivered to a cell. It is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator”

    “You are getting injected with a chemical substance to induce illness, not to induce an immuno-transmissive response, in other words nothing about this is going to stop you from transmitting anything. This is about getting you sick and having your own cells be the thing that gets you sick”
     
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    It's getting people sick alright.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...dly-blood-clots.606446/page-4#post-1073977471
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rlds-population.602347/page-3#post-1074006375
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rlds-population.602347/page-3#post-1074004900


    I've seen some of this first-hand as I've told you several times. This and the other info that's been posted pretty much closes the whole case. If you think you're making people here believe that the vaccine is safe and effective, you're flogging a dead horse.
     
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    See batshit post batshit, never check it, ignore every single response!

    Two statements from Martin - show where he uses the "scientific method", show his evidence for these and explain how you disprove this batshit.

    I don't care about your pathetic hearsay and I certainly can disregard anything from you knowing the people who probably surround yourself with!

    No it doesn't because it comes from proven dishonest sources with motives of their own, aimed it clueless gullible people. It has been debunked whether you like it or not.

    YOU aren't the spokesperson for "people" and your opinion is as worthless as I have ever encountered. You have no capacity for honest debate or the basic ability to be objective. You select EVERY bit of your story from dishonest sources without allowing ANYTHING that contradicts it. That is moronic and pathetic.

    You are afraid to answer this - EXACTLY what sources would you accept as accurate to debunk them!? How is it even possible without your totally dishonest instant dismissal because you label it "mainstream"?
     
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    You are a fraud. You keep posting these moronic links with your customary total failure to check a damn thing! How exactly is anyone to disprove this batshit? You are totally afraid to answer this below. There is NO answer that you can give that works!

    You are fraudulently claiming you must be right because every source that disproves it must, by your idiotic claim, be lying!

    EXACTLY what sources would you accept as accurate to debunk them!? How is it even possible without your totally dishonest instant dismissal because you label it "mainstream"?

    12.7 billion vaccines given and 1250 papers, many duplicated and a considerable number on reactions that were minor and quickly improved! The percentile is miniscule and many of the papers are a result of attempts to establish causation!
     
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