Video: Settlers, stealing from old ladies

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    There a reason why I didnt ask a racist what s/he thinks abot generalizing millions of ppl - your reply is obvious.
     
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    Who is this ' racist ' to whom you, stutteringly , refer ?


    Well, it's your strawman. We'll just watch while you attack it yourself. :mrgreen:
     
  3. Gilos

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    Can you think of a person that answered my post and generelize millions of ppl with nothing but negative treats? is that not racism ?
     
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    "It was all made by the Arabs with CGI!"
     
  5. moon

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    Ah, Zion-piddle. I thought you had some sort of grounds for accusation.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The video is not fake. It is made by Palestinians and Israelis who are working together to try and promote justice. The video comes from these people

    http://www.justvision.org/

    Here you can see a 4 part video I have put up before from these same people. It sounds similar to the My Neighbourhood one.

    http://www.justvision.org/homefront

    I found these after doing a search on Walid Salem after I had read an article at the Palestine Israeli Journal http://www.pij.org/. He feels strongly that in order to get things sorted out it is necessary to meet and talk with Israelis, get to know them and let them get to know Palestinians. You will see in the first Home Front movie, which sounds very like My Neighbourhood, that at the beginning it was hard for the Palestinians to even believe that Israeli's would help them. They are worth watching. Both need to see the humanity in each other.

    Walid Salem interview

    http://www.justvision.org/portrait/75955/interview

    Home Front videos again http://www.justvision.org/homefront
     
  7. RedRepublic

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    The difference is that Israel has always been a colonial state, the Palestinians are the oppressed group here.
     
  8. Gilos

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    This is not a court Moon, here the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s know they are (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s they just think can are allowed to be for their "cause", but all they are is just (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s.
     
  9. Gilos

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    Nothing justifies racism,

    Palestinians ARE being oppressed because of the very large group of militants they have that chooses conflict over negotiations.
     
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    It's racist if race actually comes into this, which it generally does not aside from Israeli demonization of "stoopid arabs".
    It is certainly right to demonize most of the population of Israel, they keep electing the dirtbags that continue expansionist policies.
     
  11. moon

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    ' Contempt ' I believe thay call that. ' Take him down '.
     
  12. moon

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    A transparent misrepresentation of the situation from a wholly biased perspective. They are being oppressed because they will not surrender.
     
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    They could end it all now if they would just renounce terrorism and negotiate with Israel. With in no time at all Israel could bring them into the modern era with peace and prosperity for all.
     
  14. Gilos

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    Nothing justifies racism, anti sematism or demonizing of any society or ethnic group, ppl that belive such crap are a waste of lives.

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    I thought they wanted a country, which is it ? fight till they "win" over the Jews or having an indipendant country ?
     
  15. RedRepublic

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    I thought Jews were members of a religion, not a specific race? By all means correct me if I'm wrong.
    There is definitely Antisemitism, but it is very different in character than that of the Nazis. When their Zionist oppressors are Jewish, they've only had contact with Zionist Jews, and the Israeli government never mentions the fact that there are non-Zionist Jews it does not seem particularly strange that many Palestinians direct their anger at "the Jews". This is extremely different from the antisemitism of a fascist state.
     
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    I don't even allow them the term ' antisemitism '. It's a misnomer. Arabs are Semites as well as some jews. The term was intended to refer to all Semitic peoples, not just jews exclusively. It's a mark of jewish paranoia that it is misused today.
     
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    I don't think the old meaning of the word is relevant, considering its current meaning is derived from the attitude of the Nazis towards the Jews.

    But it is entirely misappropriated when it comes to Palestinians. The political and economic situation here is entirely different, and the hate many Palestinians have towards Jews is the hate of an oppressed group which has mostly only ever had contact with Israeli Zionist Jews.
     
  18. Gilos

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    But they cant, practicly, so what they are left with is being (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s

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    I wasnt speaking about the Arabs, Jew hatred is more fitting there.
     
  19. Gilos

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    Ethnic group, you've been corrected.

    I know all about the reasons, but what's wrong is still wrong, would you justify racism in an Israeli that lost his family to terror attack ?
     
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    No, I would not justify it - racism is wrong no matter what. There is a lot of racism on both sides but Israeli racism has a colonial character which makes it worse.
     
  21. Gilos

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    Israel is the stronger side and occupies the Palestinians but there's more to that, such as the reason, you say its part of a dream to occupy all land including Iraq, Saudi Arabia etc' etc', we say its because they never stopped fighting since before 1948, that's when demonizing (*)(*)(*)(*)s up trust and any hope for an agreemnet and for practical reasons - its wrong.
     
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    I don't believe Israel has aspirations to control Saudi Arabia or Iraq, I've never made that claim and to my knowledge Israel hasn't made any moves in that direction. The part that I bolded makes no sense to me.
     
  23. Gilos

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    its a famous Muslim propaganda, river to river theory, thought you were a supporter but Im happy to learn you are more reasonable person,

    I mean when you demonize a person you will always search for hidden motives like some ppl here, the shark bit an Egyptian because the Israelis trained him to so do (true news piece from Egypt), now how can you reach an agreemnet with a person than really really thinks you are not Human ?
     
  24. Leffe

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    It might, but it does not come close to showing that "this" video is a lie, and this is the point now isn't it. The producer has won a lot of major awards, she is not some back room blogger.

    Now, being as you are on this thread, how about you discuss the premise of it?
     
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    Thank you Alexa, for sharing this information.

    I will indeed pass the first link (videos 1 through 4) on to a few friends. I'm confident they (videos) will be appreciated. I've saved the second link (interview), for further reading.

    :thumbsup:


    I appreciate your time.
     

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