Viktor Bout and disgraceful US behavior. Where is a justice?

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  1. martin_777

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout
    Russian translated article

    Well, the guy was not even been in US and brought to justice in US.:???:
    Also, was not US Government selling the weapons to terroristic Taliban and Osama Bin Laden to kill Russian people in Afghanistan???
    Colombians also have a right to protect themselves from US imperialism. If US attacks them, shall they just sit and wait, until they all get shot or shall they surrender themselves? If they want to protect themselves, then they will be called "terrorists"??? This is a total nonsense to me...


    This is truly disgusting, dishonest, double-faced and hypocritical behavior.
    :puke:

    On my opinion it's just an excuse to remove a competitor in weapons trade.
     
  2. EvilAztec

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    It's really a dirty story, mixed with hysteria and hypocrisy. I hope that our government will be able to help Viktor.
     
  3. martin_777

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    BTW, he is was not on US territory, he doesn't have US citizenship, why the hell he should obey to US laws? We live in a free, open society and open market. He was not selling any forbidden types of weapons too.
    Only US considers that Columbian organization FARC is "terrorist", but not Russia.
    US, helloooo, what the f*??! They talk about freedom of speech, freedom of expression and opinion, but rudely violating it!

    I looked up about what is FARC http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/farc.htm. It's a Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia. If they are terrorists, then why people who were fighting against Kaddafi in Lybia are not terrorists? They were called revolutionists in Lybia, not terrorists. Interesting how they manipulate with this conceptions, to serve their own interests.

    I wonder, neither Russian Government, nor his lawyer doesn't want to mention the fact that US was selling the weapons to terroristic Taliban to kill Russian people in Afghanistan.
    Are they nuts?

    Send letter to V. Putin. I did.
    http://premier.gov.ru/mail/step2.html

    I don't think that injustice should rule the world!
    I don't support any kind of violence and wars, but I support justice. US clearly humiliates Russia acting like this.
     
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    yea they should just legalize drugs and refine it ..have people take it in moderation
     
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    FARC is a leftwing communist group seeking to overthrow a legitimately recognized allied Government.

    Anyone who assists them is a criminal.

    Maybe your big giant turd of a country hasn't gotten the memo yet, you lost the Cold War, that means we rule the world now as a consequence and therefore we set the rules of the game and do whatever the hell want. Don't like it? Pound Russian Snow for all we care.
     
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    Are you quite sure you are sympathetic to Vikto Bout?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout

    A citizen of Russia, he was arrested in Thailand in 2008 and was extradited in 2010 to the United States to stand trial on terrorism charges after being accused of smuggling arms to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) to use against US forces.

    On November 2, 2011, he was convicted by a jury in a federal court in Manhattan of conspiracy to kill US citizens and officials, deliver anti-aircraft missiles and provide aid to a terrorist organisation.

    (He sure got around... interesting that he was cozy with Charles Taylor.)
     
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    I'm quite sure. I'm sympathetic to Viktor Bout.
     
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    Enough ! Stop ! You're scaring us Russians! :-D
     
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    Look at how this American childish behavior! Jee.
    Who decides who can assist whom and who decides why it's criminal. You. USA. USA is a world dictatorship & new form of KGB as we can see.

    This is even more childish. You sound like a kid. Poor kid is thinking to hurt somebodies feeling, by pointing at his muscles. LOL. "I can beat you! I can beat you! I will bring my Dad!", like these little boys in a middle school! LOL.

    We lost a Cold War?! Maybe you meant we were clever enough to stop it? And USA still keep trying to bring it back by deploying missiles and military bases around Russia. What can US mass media can do to people. Good example of inability to think for himself.

    You know, guys I watched some US movies, were they claim that did something to make as "loose the war". I still don't understand what do they mean by that. Russian people & Gorbachev finally got rid of this Zionists-imposed Communist Regime? This is what they mean by "loosing a war"? Poor Americans need something to be proud of... Cause their moral is so low.

    Most Russians look at it as our victory and idea to stop the Cold War it's a primarily Russian-lead clever idea, while you were not even have enough brains to stop, you still miss it and still attempting to continue. Jee... Why do you need to continue the senseless war, when Communist Regime was peacefully abolished?

    Go home Yankee. Eat burgers, enjoy life, watch TV.
     
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    Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) is not even on US territory.
    Viktor Bout was not on US territory and not a US citizen, why he should comply US views and laws???

    Protect US territory, don't let them in. It's that simple. What is going on in Colombia is a problem of Colombia. Because Colombia is not USA.
     
  13. MaxRiga

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    I always ask my self - why Russians are so crazy about crime? Honestly, so many people admire of crime in Russia. Crime is almost equal to something like romance there.
    Viktor is crime and thanks God that at least America can find crime and judge. America will do if Russia can't.
     
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    Quite right Max Riga,
    It is easy to make a figure like Viktor seem romantic -- as per Hollywood rubbish .
    He was the biggest piece of unadulterated crap on the planet .
    It is revolting that anybody should want to protect his alleged Human Rights , because not only did he never consider other people , he murdered thousands -- if not hundreds of thousands --- indirectly .He was a Ghadaffi without a State
    The greater worry is that most of his stunts were impossible without the backing of Putin .
    Yet so many Russians refuse to blame their little Hitler , whilst at the same time acknowledging that absolutely nothing can be done without his clear agreement .
     
  15. martin_777

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    As Russian, I don't know any people I know who would be crazy about the crime. Rather hateful to the crime. There is too much propaganda from the West to disgrace Russia, which clam themselves as "democrats".

    If we see in this article, majority of the crime is committed by minorities.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Egor_Sviridov

    Latvia can't do even a fraction of what Russia can do.
    Also, if you want to do something, you should be fair to people and have a fair trial.
    Viktor Bout didn't even commit any crime, he was only taped by American KGB.
     
  16. MaxRiga

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    Considering your poor English I can assume you are newcomer to CA? If so, can you please tell me what was the reason u left ur homeland?
     
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    Go pick up a fight with someone else. Seems like you have nothing to do.
     
  18. raymondo

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    You seem to take this criticism personally, Martin .We all "love " Russians -- those of us who have mixed with them and visited .
    Our complaints are about your system , which you must know , as an intelligent and perceptive person , is pretty grim --- regardless of our own faults .
    Until you start to recognise and apply Human Rights you will never stop comment and accusations .
    If you feel so strongly about it , you need to address your concerns to the beloved Mister Putin or that nice Mister Lavrov !!
    I am sad to report that your record at the European Court for Human Rights stinks to high heaven .
     
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    Firstly, you've torn out a phase from whole thought and it's kind of sounds off topic.

    Secondly, I don't find anything wrong with Russia. I feel more free and heard then in the West.
    What I see, that West doesn't like strong countries and strong leaders. It's totally understandable - you want to rule the world and someone gets on your way.
    What are your dam*n "Human Rights" mean - forced love for colored people and for gays???:mrgreen: The let them come to your country and if you against it - you are a fascist?!

    Who is going to suffer from your anti - Russian propaganda? Russian people who are around you. SO, this is why I take it personally.
     
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    The guy is a criminal and has been sentenced for his crimes.
     
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    Unfortunately many Russians Immigrants need lot of years to understand the Freedom and Democracy!It is difficult to grasp why they still live in so "terrible" western countries and do not re-emigrate back to so beloved Russia?
     
  22. martin_777

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    This guy is not a criminal, since he didn't commit any crime and US doesn't have any legal authority to persecute him.

    Unfortunately many Americans are so brainwashed, that they have completely lost what Democracy and Freedom really means.
    I still have right not just only re-emigrate back to Russia, but criticize the rotten US SYSTEM. Your tactics of kicking the out a person, which is not happy with the SYSTEM clearly demonstrates your inability to tolerate people with a different view, which in it's turn, clearly demonstrates that you are against freedom and democracy, or you simply don't understand what it means.:mrgreen:
     

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