Waitress who made claims of "homophobia" against patron, suspended from job

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by sec, Dec 5, 2013.

  1. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    Google it, its in many sources. And of course its all about politics and bias, thats the only way to explain such unwillingness to admit the truth.
     
  2. JeffLV

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    Well, I guess you've proven that the media is not one-sided as you claimed.
     
  3. JeffLV

    JeffLV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The OP's source has a link to this source, which has a bit more information on the CC statement. Here's that link. http://www.nbcnewyork.com/video/#!/...We-Tipped-Server--Didn-t-Leave-Note/233409781
     
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    bogus assumption that you want to use as your broad brush.

    Do people with all the tattoos work at tattoo parlors?

    Do those with all the piercings sell jewelry for a living?

    What I saw in the video of her was her reaching across an open table, not a booth to pass plates to diners. I never saw her move to the side of each patron to present the plate.

    I notice those things as I paid my way through school as a waiter.
     
  5. JohnnyMo

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    What I've been able to find is a poor quality copy of of the Customer Copy of the receipt. What bias are you referring to?

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    Thanks for the link. I watched the video a few times.
     
  6. Toefoot

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    Update, Seems Wounded Warrior Project is now involved:

    The lesbian waitress who claimed she received an anti-gay note in lieu of a tip promised to donate the subsequent gratuities that poured in to the Wounded Warrior Project — but the veterans organization reportedly can’t verify it had received any donations from Dayna Morales.

    Morales, a 22-year-old former Marine, claimed last month that a family of four who racked up a $93.55 bill at the Gallop Asian Bistro in Branchburg, N.J., left her no tip, only a note saying they couldn’t leave any extra cash for her service because they “do not agree with your lifestyle.”

    Morales quickly emailed the story to a gay advocacy website and later posted a photograph of the purported check on her Facebook page. The alleged incident made national headlines and resulted in thousands of dollars being donated to Morales, who said she would send all proceeds to the Wounded Warrior Project. But a representative of the Florida-based charity could not confirm Morales had made any donations as of Wednesday, Bridgewater Patch reports.

    A representative for the nonprofit group that caters to veterans returning from overseas checked for donations by Morales’ name and within the ZIP codes for Bridgewater, N.J., where she worked, and Bedminster, where Morales said she lives, and was unable to locate any correlating donations. The donations may have been made from a different ZIP code or by a third-party, the representative told the website.

    Morales, who served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve from July 2009 through May 2013 in Newburgh, N.Y., as an administrative specialist, could not be reached for comment. Restaurant manager Byron Lapola told NJ.com earlier this week that she remains off the schedule, at least temporarily.

    “We’re still waiting for the owners to finish their investigation,” Lapola told the website. “It’s pretty complex, so until then we’re restraining comment.”

    The couple accused of leaving the note for Morales has since denied doing so, telling NBC 4 New York they did in fact leave an $18 tip on the $93 bill. The unidentified couple also provided the station a credit card statement that indicated the tip, according to the report.

    NBC News has also reported that a Pentagon source said Morales was dismissed from the Marine Reserve Corps in May because she was not attending drills and that she was discharged under “less than honorable” conditions.

    Several of Morales’ acquaintances also since questioned her credibility. Kristina Calamusa, who described herself as a former friend of Morales, told The Daily Caller late last month that the waitress claimed to her that she was “blown up by a land mine overseas.”

    But, according to Calamusa, that story was false; Morales was never on active duty. The Journal News of White Plains, N.Y., has also quoted acquaintances of Morales who say she lied about her military service.

    Julie Howat and Karolee Larkin, both 23, related to the newspaper a story Morales supposedly told them about her serving in Afghanistan and surviving an explosion that killed everyone in her platoon, leaving her as the unit’s sole survivor. But Maj. Shawn Haney, a spokesman for the Marines, said in an email to The Journal News that while Morales did serve in the Marines Corps reserve from July 2009 to May 2013, there’s no indication in her record of combat service in Afghanistan or Iraq.

    “While (Morales) did not fulfill her reserve obligation, per the Privacy Act, administrative actions are not releasable,” Haney said. “The same applies to character of service and type of discharge.”

    That’s not all Morales has allegedly concocted about her past, acquaintances said.

    “She said that her dad raped her and got her pregnant,” Kiersten Bremer told The Daily Caller News Foundation. When Morales failed to produce a child, she told Bremer and other friends that she had cervical cancer which spread to the baby, killing it, Bremer claims.

    Bremer says Morales later admitted she fabricated the entire story.

    Another story comes from a day care center where she once worked, when she told co-workers that Superstorm Sandy so badly damaged her former home in Stony Point, N.Y., that a boat tore through the living room, The Journal News reported. Concerned friends who stopped by the house found only minor damage to the carpet by the front door and no indications of the catastrophic damage Morales described.

    “Every story she comes up with has a lie,” Howat said.
     
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    Ok, you lost me...

    Say again?

    She looks like a lesbian to me at first glance, based on hair cut, demeanor etc.

    Fact is, she's a lesbian.

    So who is wrong and who is right here?

    What I stated was, within 15 seconds, assessments are made about people....in your assessment , she was not doing a good job as a waitress...that's still an assessment. 15 seconds is actually on the long side, some studies indicate a judgment is made within 7 seconds of meeting someone.

    Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolkinseygoman/2011/02/13/seven-seconds-to-make-a-first-impression/

    Appearance matters, it's often how we're judged in initial impressions...now you can sit on your Ivory tower throne and look down on those who are so quick to judge on such shallow grounds....but the fact remains these judgments are made at the sub-conscious level and are ingrained from the millenia of evolutionary transfer that living organisms need to make quick judgments for their very survival.

    Friend or foe?
    Prey or predator?

    It's ingrained in us and there's nothing inherently wrong with it, it can often times keep us alive if our intuition is telling us a situation should be avoided because our quick assessment gives us red flags.

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    Looks like a lesbian...

    Guess what?

    She's a lesbian.

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    Looks like a lesbian.

    Guess what?

    She's a lesbian

    So spare me the pomposity.
    People make judgments very quickly, seconds, it's human nature.
     
  9. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Now I do not know,,,or really care. However are not most women who choose to look like that making a statement? Not all of course, that would be silly,,but most would be my guess. It's a bit difficult not to notice...

    Why is it many people who are ultra Politically correct are also the very same ones pushing the envelope? It's almost as if they are saying...''Look at This, but dont Look at me''
    Not many people can ''not notice'' something that stands out from the mainstream norm. This is not to say they are not normal, but different usually does get noticed.

    It is how we treat each other that counts, after all,,perception has to do with reality about as much as reality has to do with perception...
    I think Yogi Berra said that......or at least....should.
     
  10. Micketto

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    Maybe unlike the attention-hungry perma-victim they don't take their personal life to Facebook ?

    Why in the world do they owe you or anyone else a photograph ?

    ffs
     
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    Reality,,,or perception?.....Jodie Foster~~~
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    I dunno,,,and I dont care....LOL
     
  12. Micketto

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    Well... ;)

    [​IMG]

    I think everyone knows that often times "you can tell" and often times you can't.
    Why people argue otherwise, I have no idea.

    Sometimes.... you just know.....

    [​IMG]
     
  13. JohnnyMo

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    Does a possibility still remain that the waitress is telling the truth?? I believe it does. Nobody is on trial here. My thoughts on this are based on the waitresses past and the many generation copy of the Consumer Copy of the receipt. When the post you quoted was made, I had not seen the photographic evidence alleged in the OP. I've now seen photographic evidence of the two receipts.

    A photograph?? You might have misunderstood my comment.
     
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    hey,,stop ruining my reality,,,huh!!!
     
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    I believe the term for the less apparent, in appearance anyway, lesbian is "lipstick lesbian."

    I agree sometimes you can't tell, it isn't overt, other times...as flounder alluded it is as if they want the World to know. It is not always obvious, this is for certain. In my opinion, in the case of this waitress, it's fairly obvious.
     
  17. JeffLV

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    Hmm, kinda like how the anti lgbt side claims they are victims of one sided media when making posts like this that show otherwise. Gay people are not perfect, of course.Nobody is. Do beyond this incident itself, I don't know why they feel a story about one gay person is relevant to all gay people.
     
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    Yes I agree...''Look at this, but don't look at me'' If you dress like that then expect to be noticed,,,not abused but definitely noticed. Most mature folks don't care, except if they are marching down the street half nakid,,,THEN they care....LOL

    Sure the note is plausible, but not in her case,,not after the proof. By using it she is actually worse than the people that may write a note like that. At least they are being honest [albeit wrong in my opinion],,,she's not.
     
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    Of course. If the credit card company is in on it too. Since the reports say the family presented the credit card statement to show exactly what was withdrawn.
    Not saying any of this is true, but at this point it is the official story.. which I choose to stick with.
    Because other than investments.... I'm not much of a speculator.


    I don't think the analyzed "picture of a receipt", or the possibility that the customer receipt is a photocopy... has to do with anything.

    When I go out to eat I am handed 2 receipts. One I sign for the merchant... and one that says "customer receipt" that usually gets wadded up and tossed onto the dirty dishes.

    So that "customer copy" could have left the restaurant blank, and the numbers filled in later.

    Meaning however many times you people guess it may have been copied.... is completely moot.


    If I did, I did. This is what I responded to.


    Anyway... her past of bailing on her country means nothing to me.
    If she lied to further "the agenda" then that is all I have a problem with.

    Worst case... someone didn't tip her, and politely told her why. Big fkn deal.
    You don't go running to social media to denounce someone. That's why her job is at risk.
    If you make the choice to look like a certain demographic, then you need to accept that some will have a problem with you.

    If they called her names then I have a problem with them.

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    Lol.... is that not hilarious ?
     
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    An article on this mentions, this young lady was formerly a Marine Reservist who was given an other than honorable discharge. I spent 9 years of my life as an Air Force Reservist and I know a little about the consequences of missing drill. Drill is basically inactive duty training, or IDT as it's referred. An IDT is one 4-hour drill period. Reservists who accrue more than 9 unexcused IDTs of the required 48 in any 12 month period are deemed to be unsatisfactory participants and are usually separated from the Reserves with an “Other Than Honorable” characterization of service, unless good reasons exist for a “General" discharge. Honorable discharges as the result of even excused excessive absences from IDT, are rare. An OTH discharge is the most severe administrative discharge which is a non-punitive discharge prior to completion of an enlistment.

    She was not dishonorably discharged from the Marine Reserves, she was given an OTH administrative discharge for missing too many drills with unexcused absences.

    You all can make your own assessments of her character based on this information.
     
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    Blah, blah, blah. Somehow you're more of an expert on gay people than gay people themselves? No.

    What does a lesbian look like? That you think lesbians have a particular look pretty much negates the rest of your arguments, as it illustrates immediately your prejudices. There is nothing respectful about perpetuating anti-gay stereotypes.
     
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    It struck me as funny. The goal is to be unbiased as much as possible...so you form a group of LGBT as a response team to go investigate and report facts? The group is biased by the formation of the response team itself.

    Maybe I am over thinking it.

     
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    Butch is one quality I'd say the more overt lesbian possess...and like I said...you can deny this all you want.

    I know the "game"....I wasn't born yesterday.

    Gay men are some the most prejudiced people towards the lesbian community...there is no "sisterhood" among them...like I said I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday.

    Save the "faux rage" over the poltical correctness.

    She looks like a dyke...and she's a dyke.
     
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    You're not.

    And what's more... when these sort of "groups" are formed (no matter what kind), they then need something to do.. if only to justify their existence. So they go looking for bias anywhere they can find it.

    That's why we see so many people getting falsely accused.
     
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    So your "evidence" is a photo of Jodie Foster captured from a movie; a case where she is "in character" and not representing herself.

    And then we have the gratuitous, obviously photo-shopped image of Obama, obviously intended as a flamebait.

    Pathetic.
     

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