Some people have the ability to change the course of the debate. Taliban is not relevant to this thread. You want to talk about them, open a new thread. As far as i understand, No brave muslim arab one-sided has Strongly condemned here the actions of Assad. I rest my case.
Virtually everybody in Syria, regardless of faction, hates the Israelis. I am very surprised that MGB Roadster <<<Mod Edit: Insult>>>cares anything about what happens to ANY of the factions in Syria. Of course a cynic might think that he is afraid an Al-Qaeda friendly Sunni regime will take power that will encourage terrorism against Israel, and MGBR is starting to store up rocks to throw at the new regime when it takes power. That's the only reason I can think of for MGBR to give any thought to any possible sufferings of the Alawites in Syria (who used to be top dogs under the Assads, who fought two major wars with Israel).
Take all your distorted perspective personally against me will not help. Virtually everybody in Syria, regardless of faction, hates the Israelis ?? You can read many threads here written by arabs and beduim palestinians which say that the FSA ( "the Syrian terrorists" ) are simply following the instructions of the Zionist High Command ? You people fight and kill each other. You don't have Even one thing in common ( besides hate the beautiful & the tower of light in the dark arab world - Israel ).
you want to hear something from an Arab and Muslim? To me it seems like the West got tired of Israeli problem and are actively supporting jihadists with funding from Saudi and Qatar to cut that cancer from our region. Their mouth are not going at same speed as their actions. I can see no other reason for them to arm and support those fanatical jihadists. Can you?
Not all ppl in this forum are ********s skeptic, not every comment or insult here refers to a genuine feeling that person has, In Hebrew we have a saying you never judge a person when he's furious, Israeli issues with Syria will not go away no matter who wins over there, it doesnt mean we "enjoy" the massacre or the pictures of ripped apart children and civilians (no, not in Gaza when that happens either).
Yea that's probebly it.... I think we can safly cut down on our defense budget, even if a war with Egypt breaks out, there is no possible way their soldiers will know how to navigate throu Sinai, or drive for that matter....
you want to hear something from an Arab and Muslim? To me it seems like the West got tired of Israeli problem and are actively supporting jihadists with funding from Saudi and Qatar to cut that cancer from our region. Their mouth are not going at same speed as their actions. I can see no other reason for them to arm and support those fanatical jihadists. Can you?
Ramzi, maybe you mean that the west got tired of the palestionian Beduim problem. Beware palestinians, you have a weird and strange way of always being on the wrong side. For that all Arabs hate you. One question ( and i hope you answer wisely as a well educated person ) - who is the cancer that needs to be cut from "your" region ? I did not understand what you wrote. Thank you.
Todays Western backed FSA terrorism Your Saudi funded Jihadists latest bombing I'll post these because I know Americans and their allies dont get to see the results of their jihadist support campaigns
apparently Al Saud has given the order for his FSA jihadists to shell the Hezbullah defence position in Lebanons Hermel region waiting for update meanwhile as we are waiting for update we can re read this http://www.counterpunch.org/2009/06/24/investigating-the-khobar-tower-bombing/
I note that if you write "Jihadists" , you mean something BAD. I wonder why many Palestinian beduim call their sons Jihad ?
I'm a little confused by MGBR's reference to Palestinean beduim. The Bedouin or Bedu are only a small portion of the "Israeli Arab" population and an even smaller part of the "Palestinian" population but MGBR appears to think all Palestineans are Bedouin. It's particularily interesting given the history of Israeli relations with the Bedu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev_Bedouin http://www.myjewishlearning.com/isr...igious_Issues/Arab-Israelis/The_Bedouin.shtml http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/04/2012421020291808.html Mixed sources here. A fairly neutral one, a pro-Israel one and an anti-Israel one. Hopefully the bulk of the facts can emerge by comparing the three links.
Shall I start posting the results of the jihadist terror campaigns that you've supported, Abu? If it takes posting more jihadist porn and displaying a complete disregard for the dignity of the dead to illustrate your selective outrage and hypocrisy, I could go there, too... .
Gawd, it ain't arf nippy mate, good grief it is . http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/US/VA/Shenandoah.html Lummy, it's so tayters it'd chill the bollox orf a falsetto . Innit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeUjuZ0p78M
1. You did not answer my question. 2. Of course you are confused. Something is starting to shake your false theory.. All Palestinians are originally Bedu !!! In the begining of the 20th century and at the end of the 19th century, Beduim tribes wandered in the Arab deserts looking for better life.. some of them came from Egypt and setteled in Gaza.. Some setteled in Judea & Samaria. "Palestinians" do not have an history in Israel's territory. They are Illegal occupiers.
A war between tribes with flags and there are war crimes. Whooda thunk? Really, sport. Did you expect anything else?
God, MGBR is horribly mislead by selecting only "history" written by incredibly biased sources. There were hordes of urban and village Palestineans who had no connection with the Bedu and whose ancestors had lived in the area for centuries. Did the Christians in Bethlehem descend from mass conversions of Bedu in 1900? Did Palestine stay effectively empty from the time of the Crusades up until the start of the Zionist movement, or was it filled with Jews that mysteriously decided to convert to Islam or leave Palestine in 1890? For that matter, if Palestine was full of Jews during the time of the Crusades, why do the various accounts written by Crusaders refer to all the Muslims and Christians living in the Holy Land and make almost no mention of any Jews? Even the incredibly biased Jewish Virtual Library mentions the fellahyn (the villagers - strange how it omits those dwelling in the towns (Jaffa, Acre, Hebron, Nablus, Jerusalem, Nablus, etcetera)) and also mentions that many had lived there for a thousand years (although somehow equating travelling outside Palestine in search of work as being equal to having no real ties to the land) http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Arabs_in_Palestine.html Here is a source with the data for the modern growth of the Jewish population in the Israel/Palestine area: http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000636 And here is a source from someone who extracted original encylopedia data for the region from the late 1800s to the early 1900s: http://palestineisraelpopulation.blogspot.ca/ For a standard and comprehensive look at the Palestineans and their history, which states which areas are in dispute by reputable scholars of the subject, I invite MGBR to read the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people I also invite MGBR to consider the case of the Samaritans, who somehow seem to get left out of a lot of simplistic renderings of Israel/Palestinean history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans In other words, MGBR, just because you want to embrace a ludicrous and grossly simplistic version of "history" in order to support your own prejudices and political agenda DOESN'T MAKE IT SO! Please come back when you have taken the blinkers off your eyes.
1. For the second time, You did not answer my question. 2. All "Palestinians" are originally Bedu !!! The twisted information you write cannot change that fact. "Palestinians" do not have an history. There is no real and meaningful history behind them. As I mentioned and as you probably know, until 100 years ago they were not mentioned. The "palestinian" concept came from Arab countries ( who hate them so much although they are Bedouins) which gave them "identity" to undermine the stability of the Jewish state. Israeli Arabs also hate the Palestinians, only some visually identify with them.,None of them (and I stress) none of them agree to live under the Arab Muslim rules (neither Hamas nor Fatah).
If you are supporting the Western backed FSA jihadists it's only fair then that you should see some of their work which you are supporting and paying for which will not be shown on your Western media. GRAPHIC!! video shows Saudi style attempted beheading [video=youtube;EWlQa08wbPY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlQa08wbPY[/video]
Up until the 1940s, the Zionist settlers actually usually referred to themselves as Palestinean. I would agree that there was no nation of Palestine and no general consensus of a national identity up until the time the Israelis starting stealing their homeland out from under them. This does not mean that there were not plenty of inhabitants of Palestine for whose ancestors had lived there for centuries and it does not mean that those inhabitants are not mentioned in historial references (Ottoman tax rolls, if nothing else - try taxing a Bedu during the Ottoman period). If the Palestineans had been allowed to stay on the land of their ancestors, there would have been a much slower realization of nationhood by the Palestineans; it was the challenge of losing what they had which made them realize that this driving force united them much more than their differences divided them. How is this any different from Askhenazi and Sephardim or secular and Orthodox Jews all deciding they would become Israelis? And if Israeli Arabs are treated so well, why are virtually none of them trusted in the IDF?
trusted you mean serve. If i was the israeli chief of staff ( good for you that i'm not ) i would not recruit arabs. Many Arabs are not Faithful. Look what they did in Paris France 2 or 3 years ago.. All the riots. Look what they did in our UK.. Bombs in the subway.. Most of the Arabs are not Faithful, they are traitors that can stick a knife in your back if you don't look carefully. All the arabs in this forum curse the FSA in Syria... Can you trust them ? NO
No one supports the killing of civilians in Syria. Not on the side of Assad and on the side of the FSA rebels. I think Syria in two years will be divided into two small countries (as happened in Yugoslavia)
