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Was the January 6 riot/insurrection defensible?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Le Chef, Oct 16, 2022.

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Do you condemn, unequivocally, the January 6 riot inside the Capitol?

  1. Yes, with no reservation whatsoever

    43 vote(s)
    72.9%

  2. No, because the rioters were heroically trying to stop the steal

    2 vote(s)
    3.4%

  3. No, because as misguided as they were, their response was understandable

    4 vote(s)
    6.8%

  4. Riot? What riot?

    10 vote(s)
    16.9%
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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    And HOW did that occur exactly? Apart from wishful thinking what evidence do you have of that?

    So how is he any different to Al Gore conceding to GW then taking it back and trying to overturn the result? Or Stacey Abrams still refusing to accept she lost? Trump can believe what he likes, it's essentially irrelevant now. I think he honestly does believe he didn't lose, his ego won't accept the loss.
     
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    If Gore had attempted to do what Trump's team planned (fake electors, declaring multiple states as no longer counting, forcing the issue to the House and abandoning the EC entirely), we would have known it. And, yes, Gore conceding the election is far different from Trump refusing to do so.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So it matches the definition but doesn’t count?

    That’s fascinating
     
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    Rob, you're poorly informed. You really are. In sharp contrast, I'm well-informed and know the not-so-subtle distinctions between an attack on the Capitol and a riot.

    Exceptionally unreasonable, Rob
     
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    Oh, that Rob.
     
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    “Stand back and stand by”
    “Fight or you are going to lose your country”

    They think everyone is as stupid as the idiots they pander.
     
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    *LOL*

    Now you're conflating all riots with an attack on the Capitol?

    *LOL*

    Very unreasonable, Rob.
     
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    Yep. It's patently absurd.
     
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    But evil ar$ehole doesn't have quite the same ring, and wouldn't be as specific to him. If you say turtle and congress in the same sentence, people know who it refers to. Evil could be like half of them.
     
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    The January 6 riot was stupid. All it did was give Democrats something harp about for months on end. It solved nothing and caused problems for people who want to discuss the real issues.
     
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    While I opposed and stated so at the time Trump holding the rally that day it was perfectly legal as where the protester AT the Capitol, AT not IN. It was the ones who planned beforehand to try and cause violence and then seeing the openings in the perimeter took advantage of the lack security and stormed the building and gained entry who are indefensible.
     
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    Not at all, Trump explored all legal avenues, Gore did the same.

    Well yeah, it's a riot but who was trying to overthrow the government?

    I'm better informed than you as is apparent to everyone, this was a riot plain and simple as everyone can see

    Very reasonable as I always am. By definition is not every riot a rebellion against authority?
     
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    Yes. Just like Gore!

    Not remotely reasonable, Rob.

    You're exceptionally uninformed, my benighted amigo.
     
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    True for Gore. Not for Trump.
     
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    No comeback, huh?

    How so?
     
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    Gore never did any of the things that Trump was pressuring Pence to do.
     
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    There was no excuse for the violence, period. Do you condemn the much greater violence that was spread across the country in the summer of 2020? I've heard little, if any, negative comments from the left on those riots.
     
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    Of course. No riot is defensible.

    I only object to the claim it was an attempt at 'insurrection' or that people who didn't engage in violence or property destruction themselves should still bear some responsibility for it.
     
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    Now,
    Yes.
     
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    No comeback, huh?
     
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    I suspect that the Loser watching that happen on tv for hours as aides, associates, advisers, media promoters, and family all pleaded with him to call off his goons may have clued him in as to what his goons were doing at the Capitol.

    Despite degenerates like Pearly Gaetz trying to deny that the Trump goons were Trump goons, even insurrectionist Stewart Rhodes was assuring his nut jobs they were, indeed, Trump goons:

    Rhodes and four other Oath Keepers leaders are facing the conspiracy charges for their part in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol...

    “They don’t give a sh!t how many show up and wave a sign, pray or yell. They won’t fear us until we come with rifles in hand,” he wrote on Dec. 29 to a group of five allies, including Kellye SoRelle, a girlfriend who Rhodes has also claimed was the group’s attorney. “Only reason to go is so Trump knows we support him in taking Reg gloves off and kickin ass.”     ​

    When one Oath Keeper asked Rhodes if the crowd was potentially an anti-Trump crowd in disguise, Rhodes assured the group that they were genuine Trump supporters.

    [https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/20/oath-keepers-trump-jan-6-00062779]​
     
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    Always good to know what people suspect.
     
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    So you actually have nothing?
     
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    Nothing other than empirical reality - the identification, apprehension, prosecution, and convictions and confessions of so many Trump goons who attacked outnumbered police in their failed attempts to deny the results of a certified presidential election, and the sworn testimony of so many Republican officeholders and Trump regime insiders. If their corroborating accounts under oath are in any respect imprecise, the Loser has been invited to clarify. Whether he has the cojones, remains to be seen.

    [https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1]

    The Cry Baby Loser's lies (that he continues to spew) that provoked his goons have been exposed.

     
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    Natty Bumpo, Oct 21, 2022
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    Rob is at it again, eh?

    "I win again, right?"

    No, Rob. You aren't "winning".
     
    Nemesis, Oct 21, 2022
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