WATCH LIVE: Two Dead, One Wounded After Shooting Reported at White Settlement Church

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  1. notme

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    I asked you to source your definition, and you are declining.
     
  2. SiNNiK

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    My proof is in your use of "gun violence". 100 robberies are 100 robberies regardless of weapon.
     
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    The ability to track a particular firearm from user to user serves no legitimate benefit to law enforcement.

    Why are firearm-related restrictions not working in all nations equally? Why are they only working in some nations, but not in others?

    There is widespread corruption in the united states at all level of government, and the majority of its firearms are also unregistered. Therefore it is the perfect analog for the united states.

    If the implement is in the possession, and under the direct control of the operator, then it qualifies as being in use.

    Such is the nature of the legal system in the united states. Until an individual actually does something wrong, and is thus subjected to due process of law, there is nothing that can actually be done. It is innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven otherwise.
     
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    If only murder was illegal in this country WTF is Trump waiting for?
     
  5. SiNNiK

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    I provided my Intellectual Property.
     
  6. SiNNiK

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    Sounds like either advocating for borders, or tacit admission that borders work.

    Or, both?
     
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    So since Mexico's strict gun laws have not stopped their horrendous murder problem, and many of the guns in Mexico are smuggled in from the US, then we need better border security to help them out. Is that correct?
     
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    All it takes is one national election, and we have one every 2 years.
     
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    The amount of gun violence in other western countries is still much lower.
     
  10. SiNNiK

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    Again, you assume that all "gun violence" is a bad thing. Some of those robbers who were fatally shot died from what you are calling "gun violence". I support women and the elderly being able to defend themselves and guns make that far easier for them.
     
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    People that turn against the US government are the farthest from patriots. You are living in fantasy :)
     
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    Gun confiscation is a conspiracy. If you think you can win the guerilla war, by all means :)
     
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    Such was the case even before any of their more restrictive firearm-related restrictions ever came into play.
     
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    Is that why they have a lower murder rate than Texas?
    You could have fooled me with that one. :)
     
  15. notme

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    lol... yeah sure. They would never want to know who is supplying terrorists.

    There is no massive disparity in Western Europe... besides the US.

    You go source that it's as bad as in Brasil.

    That's not different compared to western Europe.
     
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    CA has the highest rate of mass murders. How's that for the most gun controled state?
     
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    you mean... you made it up. Thanks for clarifying.
     
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    It's cute you think our military would stand against the people.
     
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    Not this year.
     
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    Well, there was Kent State.
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    I don't know what you're ranting about.
     
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    You are incorrect. I live in California and many common firearms are banned if the webbing between the thump and forefinger is below the top of the trigger. These firearms cannot be sold or transferred. That means that their kids may not legally inherit them. What happens to them?

    California also has a brand new way of confiscating guns called "Gun Restraining Order"

    The reason that there will be no guerrilla war is that citizens are armed and expecting soldiers to fire upon their own is unreasonable. This is why they have to attack gun owners in nibbles.
     
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    Pot, meet kettle. So the US is incapable of ever turning into a tyranny warranting violent resistance? The Founders didn't assume so. Some would argue a Deep State soft coup attempt is one of the signs.
     
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    That wasn't exactly a peaceful protest, it was kind of a forerunner to Antifa.

    "At Kent State University, a demonstration with about 500 students[13] was held on May 1 on the Commons (a grassy knoll in the center of campus traditionally used as a gathering place for rallies or protests). As the crowd dispersed to attend classes by 1 p.m., another rally was planned for May 4 to continue the protest of the expansion of the Vietnam War into Cambodia. There was widespread anger, and many protesters issued a call to "bring the war home". A group of history students buried a copy of the United States Constitution to symbolize that Nixon had killed it.[13] A sign was put on a tree asking "Why is the ROTC building still standing?"[14]

    Trouble exploded in town around midnight, when people left a bar and began throwing beer bottles at police cars and breaking windows in downtown storefronts. In the process they broke a bank window, setting off an alarm. The news spread quickly and it resulted in several bars closing early to avoid trouble. Before long, more people had joined the vandalism.

    By the time police arrived, a crowd of 120 had already gathered. Some people from the crowd lit a small bonfire in the street. The crowd appeared to be a mix of bikers, students, and transient people. A few members of the crowd began to throw beer bottles at the police, and then started yelling obscenities at them. The entire Kent police force was called to duty as well as officers from the county and surrounding communities. Kent Mayor LeRoy Satrom declared a state of emergency, called the office of Ohio Governor Jim Rhodes to seek assistance, and ordered all of the bars closed. The decision to close the bars early increased the size of the angry crowd. Police eventually succeeded in using tear gas to disperse the crowd from downtown, forcing them to move several blocks back to the campus.[9]

    Saturday, May 2[edit]
    City officials and downtown businesses received threats, and rumors proliferated that radical revolutionaries were in Kent to destroy the city and university. Several merchants reported they were told that if they did not display anti-war slogans, their businesses would be burned down. Kent's police chief told the mayor that according to a reliable informant, the ROTC building, the local army recruiting station, and post office had been targeted for destruction that night.[15] There were unconfirmed rumors of students with caches of arms, plots to spike the local water supply with LSD, of students building tunnels for the purpose of blowing up the town's main store.[16] Mayor Satrom met with Kent city officials and a representative of the Ohio Army National Guard. Following the meeting, Satrom made the decision to call Governor Rhodes and request that the National Guard be sent to Kent, a request that was granted. Because of the rumors and threats, Satrom believed that local officials would not be able to handle future disturbances.[9]

    The decision to call in the National Guard was made at 5:00 p.m., but the guard did not arrive in town that evening until around 10 p.m. By this time, a large demonstration was underway on the campus, and the campus Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC) building was burning.[17] The arsonists were never apprehended, and no one was injured in the fire. According to the report of the President's Commission on Campus Unrest:

    Information developed by an FBI investigation of the ROTC building fire indicates that, of those who participated actively, a significant portion weren't Kent State students. There is also evidence to suggest that the burning was planned beforehand: railroad flares, a machete, and ice picks are not customarily carried to peaceful rallies.[18]

    There were reports that some Kent firemen and police officers were struck by rocks and other objects while attempting to extinguish the blaze. Several fire engine companies had to be called because protesters carried the fire hose into the Commons and slashed it."

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    Nonsense. Whenever a violent felon is gunned down in the act it is a success.
    Denying that obvious truth is foolish, which doesn't mean that I want to discourage Dems from that strategy.

    Vote DP for Gun Free Killing Zone!
    Go ahead with that, make my day. ;-)
     

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