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And note Biden recently said it was irrational when the TX governor signed the bill allowing guns in churches. How many would be dead if Biden had his way?

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And if the last known legal owner claims the firearm was sold years ago, and they cannot recall the name of the individual who bought it, then what? What does law enforcement do then?

Referencing so-called "western" countries for the discussion is an admission that firearm-related restrictions do not work in general, but rather their working is the exception rather than the rule. If firearm-related restrictions truly did work, they would work in all countries equally, rather than in just specific countries.

Instead of the nation of Europe, let us discussion the nation of Brazil.

The carrying of a firearm is the same thing as the use of a firearm, as it remains in the possession and under the direct control of the individual carrying it. The carrying of a firearm is absolutely no different from the operation of a motor vehicle. Therefore the comparison is valid.

A great many things are regarded as being socially unacceptable. But they remain legal because efforts at restricting them serve to cause more harm than good. Take alcoholic beverages for example. They provide absolutely no constructive benefit, and their availability causes more harm than good. Yet they remain legal because attempting to outlaw them just served to empower the criminal element further, forcing the government to make them legal once again.

 

Afghan savages armed with AKs and home made bombs have been doing a good job standing against our military for 18 years.

 

Why is it not working in the nation of Brazil?

 

I guess if you can afford it you can always move to California.
Not quite 1/2 the rate.

 

You're deflecting.

 

You can tell they really want to say something.

 

Oh bravo... it has to be done on a national level.

Irrelevant to Chicago.

 

The criminal would still be alive and there'd be one less example of a good guy with a gun stopping a shooting -- that's all they care about.

 

That aint relevant.

I'm not going to specify some gun law from a random western European country.
We all know they got tougher gun laws.
We all know their massacres are far fewer.
That will do.

It is my free will here on this board to mock the US over it and note other western countries got it arranged far better. Get over it.

 

Untrue, the criminals just use different weapons to achieve their goal.

 

I mentioned no body counts.

How about you go source your definition of gun violence.

 

Not at all. You are floundering and unclear as a result.

You have been shown that your gun laws haven't worked in 30 years. So your response is "borders"?

 

They have far fewer minorities, 90%+ of NYC murders and victims are black or hispanic. Is one of your 'better arrangements' a ban on concealed carry, like what stopped the OP crime quickly?

 

Don't need to. A woman using a gun to kill her rapist is a violent event.

Your definition is based entirely on assumption and ignorance.

ETA: And a smattering of emotion.

 

Why don't we just make the whole United States a terrorist and mass murder free zone? Then we won't have to worry any longer.

 

So basically you would fight a guerilla war with the US government. Seriously doubt you would do very well.

That said, this gun confiscation junk is nothing more than fantasy conspiracies.

 

You would have a large part of the military and police siding with the patriots. If only 1,000,000 gun owners decided to fight tyranny, the government has a big problem on its hands. That was what the Founders intended for the 2A, it isn't about duck hunting.

Tell the Democrats. Beto O. wanted to do exactly that.

 

When it's proven the last known owner leads to that person, than it's not relevant if that person recalls he ever had it. It's like you would say to hell with the evidence, if the person simply can't recall he ever did something wrong than it's free to go. Such a president would empty all the jails world wide.

What so called western countries? If you do not understand what is meant with "western countries"... than you're not bright enough to be on this forum. That the other western countries got tougher gun laws, is beyond doubt. That the other western countries got much better stats about gun violence is a fact as well. Your claim it's just all an exception rather than the rule is a joke.

No point. Brasil is totally corrupt and over half of it's weapons are unregistered = illegal.
That makes any law to curb gun violence futile.

You sank to a total low here with your red herring.
Carrying is not operating. Hence... difference.

A new red herring. You're ranting around that the legal access of weapons to potential killers in the US is a total joke to what's socially accepted.

 

The amount of gun violence in other western countries prove it's true.

 

There was no border around Chicago in those 30 years barring guns from entering. Fact.

 

Are you saying that because of our military's tremendous success fighting an enemy hiding among friendlies in the ME and Vietnam?

Gun confiscation is not a conspiracy theory.

 

Expect to hear Hollie Silverman's firing at CNN any minute now.

 

Why would anybody do that? CA is losing its population.

 

Not going to respond to racist accusations.