We have transitioned to herd immunity

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  1. Hoosier8

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    I think the quickest test is 48 hours and that still requires a lab and supplies. Normally it takes longer and you could contract the virus while waiting.

    That is why the emphasis on testing is misplaced.
     
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    I was referring to the antibody test. There is a quick antibody test but it's not available at this clinic yet which is what I'm waiting for to get the antibody test. The one they are doing is a blood draw and sent to lab. The quick test is a finger stick and 10 minute result.
     
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    Thanks -

    As suspected, that's a bit of a trek from here in Seattle.
     
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    This would be based on the "everywhere is like right here" theory, I would guess.
     
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    Call around to the testing sites, I bet you'd find some places. If the little town of Harrison has them, then I know the bigger cities have them.
     
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    we may have if Trump lied to us when the Virus got here, many think it was here late last year, that would change the modeling biggly

    Trump does not want the facts though as he thinks it will make him look bad, so it will have to leak out as time goes on
     
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    Trump has TDS, he is patient zero, is he contagious? the right better not go to those TDS infested Trump rallies anymore

    let's vote him out in 2020, too many on the left and right are at risk of becoming infected
     
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    maybe peaked in NY.... but other state still a clean slate unless the virus arrived late last year, which is possible - testing would help us determine that
     
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    Word is that cell data around Wuhan abruptly changed in October. Word is that Xi asked WHO to not say anything. Word is that it was already in the country before thought because of people with flu symptoms not testing positive for the flu.
     
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    Therein lies your problem. Not only does your outlandish fear of infection keep you from taking up arms (thank goodness), but it's also preventing you from thinking clearly.
     
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    LOL, the US relied on WHO for the facts and the WHO cooperated with China to hide the facts. China is still hiding facts.
     
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    Key Biscayne doesn't seem to have them.

    Your suggestion depends on some sort of organized system of delivery.

    I don't see any reason to believe that exists.

    Another state that has LOTS of testing is North Dakota. South Dakota has ~100,000 and not as much testing.

    As a nation, we're still in the tall grass when it comes to testing.

    That's significant as far more testing is needed to meet the requirements of Trump's plan for opening America.
     
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    Blaming China or WHO for delays is ridiculous.

    Our disease came through Europe, not China. We had PLENTY of time.

    And, WE have been monumentally slower than has China, with OUR government issuing "happy talk" lies while hiding science.

    When we were fully aware we were still having Trump rallies, Mardi Gras, Spring Break, and no domestic travel policy. The president was still demonstrating to America that masks aren't necessary (like he does even now).

    We' still have nowhere NEAR enough testing capacity. We're still losing medical staff to COVID because of our failure to provide PPE. And, COVID is not retreating in America.
     
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    We will never will have enough testing capacity to test 350 million plus daily. Trump shut off travel from China and the UK while democrats introduced a no ban bill. Most ppe are produced in China and the ONLY company her said they could not expand fast enough to produce what was needed.

    We are losing medical staff because they are being laid off. 1.4 million so far.
     
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    Trump cause any hurricanes this year yet?
     
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    lol!

    But, he IS attacking states for caring about our environment.

    And, he has a good record of attacking the clean energy industry that is being driven by capitalism.
     
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    What does that even mean?

    You realize that conservatives live in places leftists mock as "fly over country" while they live in stinking polluted cities.

    Yeah Obama did a bang up job on renewable energy like Solyndra.

    Leftists talk to you about "global warming" and "pollution" so they can tax you, while sending their kids to work for gas drilling companies in Ukraine.
     
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    If things keep going they may actually need those guns this year.
     
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    True theory. Everywhere and anywhere has had its share of extremes and rare events for thousands of years. It all sums up to normal for the whole earth.
     
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    Trump was like China and lied to the American people and wants to reduce testing to mislead the people

    Trump praised China early on, instead of sending people there to verify

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    LOL, first one is an example of one of China’s lies.
     
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    I’m sure all quarantined will never become a problem so long as you can write a check for $3 trillion every month payable to the US Treasury.


    That’s actually exponentially increasing. Numbers grow not geometrical shapes.


    I would prefer you in any other country than this one.
     

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