We need to support, if not join the protests

Please.

Take it elsewhere.

No one's rights are being trampled. No right is absolute. When your right begins to negatively impact public safety then your rights can be limited.

As long as it is not done because of race, national origin, or religion.

Unfortunately you can still discriminate based on gender so get your fill.

Now sit down, shut up , and let the adults do their job.

 

Those who do not appreciate our freedoms don't deserve them. You are a perfect example. Stay hiding under your blanket in fear and hoping the gov't saves you.

 

Good point. How about “stay home, preserve your feelings of safety...”? That’s more accurate, right?

 

Oh, more irony.

You are able to hide quivering in your house because some adults are still doing their jobs.

And the costs of the stimulus packages, which are supposed to ease the burden of folks not being able to work, will fall on taxpayers ---- the adults doing their jobs.

But now folks like you want to fling insults about "adults doing their jobs" because more adults want to return to doing their jobs.

More irony, and more backwards world. ROFL. Just wow.

 

Not me screaming like a little girl about my roots.
Not me screaming like a spoiled brat about not going to bennigan's.

Appreciate means understand. Understand means know the limits and act responsibly.

In any society there are remedies for those who refuse to act responsibly.

 

The fact that you think the country wants to open up is to get their roots dyed or a drink in a bar shows how little you understand what it means to work and run a business and provide for a family. Keep quivering.

 

It is interesting to see the economically-based divide caused by COVID.

Business owners are anxious to reopen, and higher wage employees are anxious to return to work (because they're losing money on only unemployment), but the lower wage employees are making more money from unemployment than they were making working (thanks to the $600/week bonus on top of unemployment) so they spend their newfound free time on the internet crying about how scared they are to leave their houses

Now that we're getting a handle on this, I wish (among other things) we could stop the $600/week unemployment bonus, because I bet we'd see a huge attitude adjustment.

There is no reason for the average person to be hiding under their bed terrified of COVID ---- but at the moment it's financially beneficial for them to do exactly that, so here we are, because if they go back to work they'll have to give up the extra $600/week bonus, which amounts to almost $10,000 if they can ride the unemployment train all the way until it expires August 1st. Any wonder they don't want things reopening yet? They have 10,000 reasons to push for delays.....

 

Unless you are elderly, immunocompromised or a respiratory risk, your chance from dying from COVID are even lower that that on influenza B.

 

And this is where most do not see the trees for the forest. This is about the hairstylist who wants to work and the waitress wondering how or if they will ever have a job. This has nothing to do with people wanting to get a hair cut or dinning out. It's about the survival of these institutions and the people they employee. There is talk that nearly 52% of those small businesses that supply 48% of the jobs in this nation will close permanently. How can you not see that this is a crisis economically for a virus that is showing to have a lower mortality rate than Influenza A & B?

And now, the Democrats are merely using this as a political hot potato at the expense of Americans lively hood.. This could clearly be a breaking point in American politics as it stands.

 

No, it's about reopening the economy to protect Trump and damn the damage.

Seen any buggy whip factories?
Been to a Blockbuster recently?

Businesses come and go.
People dying is permanent.

And the Trumpinistas are willing to risk killing hundreds of thousands to save their "god."

Sorry. Trump ain't worth dying for.

 

That's a great question about Ebola. My guess: If covid had a 30% death rate, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The ONLY reason why Trump fans play hero on the internet, screaming about tyranny, is because they think the virus won't come to their neck of the woods, and, if it did, they would not be the ones dying. Sadly, they are mistaken on both of those assumptions.

 

A good US economy isn't for the benefit of Trump it is for the benefit of Americans.

 

You're dangerously close to a red pill moment.

 

That Magic Six Feet will stop it.

 

Does not conflict with what I said.

How do americans benefit from half a million dead? 3/4?

 

Your entire rebuttal is hyperbolic rhetoric. Yes, businesses come and go but this isn't wagon making. This is millions of mom and pop locations closing and millions of people being thrust into extreme poverty form something as low mortality than the common flu. You have EVERY right to self isolate and protect yourself, however you do NOT have the right to prevent people to survive economically when the science is proving this virus is not as deadly as first thought!

 

Again, absolutely exaggerated numbers.

How many people will resort to violence when they can no longer to feed their families? Do tell!?

 

Sorry bucky. Not a line you get to use, remember?

People in this country, according to the right wing hate mongers, aren't in poverty. Much less "Extreme" poverty. Remember? They have cell phones? Remember? The drink soda, remember?

And just when was it that ANYONE who remotely associated themselves with Republicans or especially Trumpism concerned themselves with poverty? Poverty is a weakness of character, remember? People wouldn't be in poverty if they'd just pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, REMEMBER?

So, if you don't mind, I and mine will go back to worrying about people in extreme poverty and you and yours go back to blaming them for being poor.

BTW. the level of hypocrisy is astounding. Trumpinistas pretending to be worried about people in poverty? Hoping Kimmel or SNL does a bit on this.

 

Are they?

In March Trump predicted ZERO.

With social distancing we have flattened the new case rate curve. Prior to the lockdown new case rates were increasing each and every day. We are level and appear to be heading down.

Now at 80k

Remove the lockdown and we go back to 30k new cases every day
Leveling out over the summer but in the fall when the kids go back to school?

I'll stick with the higher predictions. After all,

 

I'm surely not bucky, however I see you're weak attempt at being condescending. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you merely just do not have an understanding of basic economics.

You're other diatribe is nothing more than a red herring. Millions of people losing their jobs is reality today with 20.6 million people losing their jobs in a blink of an eye.

 

Then please stay in your basement while the grownups go back to work and try and save this economy. If you're right, us working class will be gone and the radical left can gleefully grace the world with their righteous fascism. If your wrong, you can thank us later for working to save the economy for you.

 

Conservatives tend to be critical of people who are poor because of laziness, irresponsibility, and poor choices. Being pushed towards poverty because the government closed down your employer (or closed down your business) isn't even remotely in the same league.

But pray tell how a person is supposed to "pull themselves up by their own bootstraps" when the government has told them they must shutdown their business indefinitely or when the government has shuttered their place of employment indefinitely?

 

Government can tell businesses that they are free to re-open. Business owners are happy about that. Yet, they are already finding out that government can't order people to frequent those businesses, if these people feel unsafe in doing so. What good is it that a restaurant can open, when they don't get enough customers to break even? A lot of waiters standing around doing nothing, while not getting tips, but risking infecting each other?

That's why the leaders have to work on plans to reopen while people are feeling safe returning to work. Real leaders are working on such plans, for example our university president. Fake leaders, like Trump, think it is all a hoax. Well, he is now getting a dose of his own hoax while the virus has entered the WH. Maybe now he is getting a wake up call, although I doubt it.

 

Our state opening dining in restaurants yesterday. As I drove through the small town near me, there were people eating inside the historic cafe, people walking on the sidewalks around the square. It was great to see this again. I also had lunch in a restaurant yesterday and tipped my waitress well. So glad I live in a red state. We didn't even have a stay at home order but the restrictions we did have are being lifted.

 

My state reopened restaurants last week (with Trump's Phase I guidelines about capacity etc), and I think hair salons etc reopen today. I support both measures. I don't see much difference, if any, between someone eating at a restaurant with outdoor seating, versus sitting in the outdoor seating area drinking a "to go" beer waiting for "to go" food, which is what everyone was doing. People naively act like "to go" food was a similar process to picking up fast food ---- umm, no.